Engine Developed A Weird Knocking

[govich]

Hey guys,

I started the car up this morning and it just idled roughly for a second or two and then this noise developed. It's a sort of 'knocking' noise, but im sure actual knock doesn't sound like this when revved. Sounds expensive, so i'd just like to see if anyone has ideas. I took 2 videos; one of the car idling and then in the second one i open the throttle a bit. Note the car still has good power (revs cleanly), and the fan spins cleanly (without hitting anything).

I've had suggestions including belts and bearings. Any help appreciated guys.

idling

revving

Edited September 18, 2006 by govich

[Kennedy]

Whats your oil level at?

[Amaru]

My vote is you have started to spin a bearing... could be wrong through

[GunMetalR33]

I have the same sound when the engine is ideling and cold. Its not as loud as that though and goes away when the engine heats up...

I have always figured that it was a big end baring on its way out, but its been doing it for a year now with no "engine go bang action"...

[123456]

ah i got some problem with mine, except mine doesnt sound quite so harsh. I started to notice mine when i installed the intercooler but its definitely not rubbing on anything.. big end bearing sound expensive

[shanef]

Sorry to say this buddy, but u've prolly got either a)a spun big end or b)bent rod.

ill try and find the vids i took of my r33 and my gtr when they made similar noises, and ill grab the pics of what was found when the r33 was stripped down.

[fEkuaR]

sounds like a big end to me.

[smurf80]

Let us know what the problem is. I am interested.

Cheers

Chris

[GunMetalR33]

Me too, (crosses fingers hoping its not a big end )

Edited September 18, 2006 by GunMetalR33

[gtr660hp]

Ohhh...thats not good.....sounds the same as my RB26 when it spun a big end bearing.... my wallet had a heart attack...sorry dude I hope im wrong

[GunMetalR33]

what did the re-build cost you?

Ohhh...thats not good.....sounds the same as my RB26 when it spun a big end bearing.... my wallet had a heart attack...sorry dude I hope im wrong

[shanef]

Depends on what kind of re-build you go for…I decded to stuff it and whack in an RB30 bottom end. you want see much back from 10k if you do it properly though

[shanef]

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v315/Tha...SpunBearing.flv

that's how the gtr sounded, and it had a spun big end

[gtr660hp]

what did the re-build cost you?

I binned it and sold off most of the useful parts- manifolds, turbo's etc and bought another one from Japan that I knew was freshly rebuilt with JUN pistons-cost about 4k landed. If I had of rebuilt here instead Id say no change from 7k with desent pistons/rods. You can do it cheaper depending on piston/rod choice. The rebuilt one I have now has copped a huge caining and has not missed a beat

[elbee111]

I had this sound very recently (see the link), sounds pretty much the same to me.

Was perfect one day and sounded crook at startup the next. Had never used oil before and found that it was down to half dipstick when I checked it after the sound.

El Bee

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...t&p=2468684

[skyguy61]

I'd have to agree with El Bee, its sounds like its in the top end a few sticky lifters maybe, try listening to it with a long screwdriver whilst the motor is idling, if it is that id be flushing it first then refill fill with clean oil and filter, also might be worth a look under the rocker cover for signs of coked up oil, just my 2 bobs worth, cheers

Good luck with it hope it isnt any more serious than that.

[Cubes]

My initial thought was top end. All though I haven't heard an rb big end I can say it definitely doesn't sound like any big end i've heard before. Its too clacky sounding.

In fact the idling sounds exactly what my freshly built RB30 sounded like upon its initial start until the lifters pumped up.

[Cubes]

I've attached a vid of the first start up.. A little hard to hear exactly how loud it was due to running no exhaust.

Movie.wmv

[govich]

Thanks guys, i can't seem to replicate the problem now, it purrs along just as before. I'll have to have a proper look around in the morning - i was in a rush to get to uni this morning so didn't really look at anything thoroughly.

It definitely isn't making any noise now though, hot or cold start.

edit: Oil level is fine, i'm thinking a lifter or two wasn't getting oil for whatever reason. I'll get more worried if it does it again..

Edited September 18, 2006 by govich

[Zappn]

Cubes rebuild vid is what my 34's rb25 sounds like first start in the morning.

once it warms it it sounds normal though, I'm assuming that's okay.