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you would only have to slightly modify mine....remove turbo and convert to manual!!!!

i dont think a non turbo man was made,if it was it would be a heap of shit!!!!

buy a subaru outback!~!!!!!!

Oh true thats ghey cause i like the shape.. Oh well r33 gts coupe it is then :rolleyes:

Lol at minor modications lol.

Subarus are teh gay.

Except this one. Buy it:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=134969

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non-turbo stageas are not eligible for importation under RAWS, power to weight is too low. have to go turbo, or get an outback as above

Id love a turbo.

But i cant have any turbo car under the new homo laws that are comming in, I get my p's in august 2007 so :rolleyes:

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Yes, only RB20DE

Would be slow as PISS, I even consider the stock RB25DET a tad slow :P

Sucks about the no turbo thing mate, stageas are GREAT first cars even in turbo form, Id definatly buy my son one for his first car, but by the time my son is 18 it will be ~2030

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Yes, only RB20DE

Would be slow as PISS, I even consider the stock RB25DET a tad slow :happy:

Sucks about the no turbo thing mate, stageas are GREAT first cars even in turbo form, Id definatly buy my son one for his first car, but by the time my son is 18 it will be ~2030

planning on holding off for another 6 years are we alex? :P

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Yes, only RB20DE

Would be slow as PISS, I even consider the stock RB25DET a tad slow :)

Sucks about the no turbo thing mate, stageas are GREAT first cars even in turbo form, Id definatly buy my son one for his first car, but by the time my son is 18 it will be ~2030

Nice to see you are thinking ahead Alex. :):D

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lol - might be a daughter, or 4, Alex :)

WTF? Four in the Back?????????LOLLOLLO

You would need a Polly"s Coach' LOLLOLLOLLOL

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six year will bring me up to 25, which is about the time id want to have kids anyway.

meh, will see, cant really plan that stuff can we :)

on another note, id have children now at 19, but just all the neglect and lack of TRUE financial support (aka, car should eat the cash :D) is holding me off.

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Hey OB,

Your only 16 now and thinking of having 174kw under your ass in your first ride.

How are you going to prepare yourself for sudden death?

I think he's right. Not saying everyone's like this but I remember how I was when I first learnt to drive. scary.

I think 2-3 years regular driving should give enough experience to handle any car reasonably well after that -but yeah its about knowing your limitations/experience (that is "knowing", not imagining).

:laugh:

Still, on the topic, a n/a skyline or other nissan import still makes a great first car. Not the quickest thing on the road but the fast acceleration is the only thing you're missing out on. You still get the looks and handling.

How much are you allowed to modify an n/a car with these new laws? I'm in SA so dont really know how it all works...

Maybe these laws are a good idea but I'd personally rather they spent the $$ on better driver training and education than just outright banning of turbo cars etc. I mean most of the time when an accident is speed related, just about any car could've reached the speed in question without too much trouble. Even n/a cars can still easily manage 150km/h on the freeway so really I think its a step in the wrong direction. Make it harder for people to get what they want and they will try harder to get it.

rant over. :laugh:

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yeah im 19 the S2 stagea is my third car after a RWD corolla and an XE falcon (big step up). Aren't there 25X model stagea's that are non turbo or something other than RB20E he could look at, would these be AWD?

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yeah im 19 the S2 stagea is my third car after a RWD corolla and an XE falcon (big step up). Aren't there 25X model stagea's that are non turbo or something other than RB20E he could look at, would these be AWD?

There are but not in Australia. They dont meet SEVS requirements for power/weight ratio or something like that. Would be painfully slow anyways.

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as steve said above we can only get AWD and RWD turbo model Stags in Australia as the non turbo models are slow as paint drying so dont meet the minimum power to weight ratio which i think is something along the lines of 121kw/tonne

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as steve said above we can only get AWD and RWD turbo model Stags in Australia as the non turbo models are slow as paint drying so dont meet the minimum power to weight ratio which i think is something along the lines of 121kw/tonne

The minimum would have to be much lower than that.

At 173kw (is that correct?) a S1 turbo stag has ~104 kw/tonne

And for reference a S2 (206kw) has ~124 kw/tonne.

And you can import n/a skylines etc. so the minimum must be a bit lower. :dry:

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The minimum would have to be much lower than that.

At 173kw (is that correct?) a S1 turbo stag has ~104 kw/tonne

And for reference a S2 (206kw) has ~124 kw/tonne.

And you can import n/a skylines etc. so the minimum must be a bit lower. :dry:

Yep I think it is 100kw/tonne or something like that. I think that there are other criteria that can be met that makes a car eligible???

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