Endless Sss Or Ssm Pads?

[nuffsaid]

Hi all

Found 2 types of pads I am interested in. Have spoken to many people and they all recommend the Endless SSS pads.

However I also stumbled across the SSM series pads which are slightly more expensive. From what I can tell they are very similar pads except that the SSM have very low dust. Supposedly the SSS have low dust as well, but if there is a SSM, then maybe it is not so low after all.

I am looking for anybody's experience with the SSS or SSM and their dust levels and braking performance.

Specs are:

Super Street S Sports

Temperature Range: 0 ~ 500oC

Average Coefficient of Friction: 0.35 ~ 0.43

Super Street M Sports

Temperature Range: 0 ~ 530oC

Average Coefficient of Friction: 0.30 ~ 0.40

Anybody know what the difference in friction coefficient will translate to on the street in terms of braking?

I am looking for pads for the street, with low low dust, not noisy and a good initial bite that does not fade off overly quickly.

I know compromises will have to be made because you cant have it all. My current pads (Formula Ferodo) are great, but just too dusty.

Thanks

[Beer Baron]

well i would say with a lower CoF the SSM will be less effective, not by much, but definately a little less effective. They both have quite wide ranges of both CoF and operating temp. so they will both be good on street, but not so good on track. i've used the SSS and they were good on street. very quiet (no squeal at all, ever) and not too dusty (nothing like bendix ults etc). quite a soft pad too so they wont chew out a rotor when cold.

[nuffsaid]

How dusty is not too dusty BB? My wheels get a tinge of brown dust with my current pads after one day in the city. A week after, they are pretty much fully brown haha! Quite annoying.

Also how were they on the initial bite? ie. did they wipe off alot of speed quickly?

Finally, my current pads have a average coefficient of 0.43, how will the Endless pads compare then? less effective I guess?

Edited September 25, 2006 by nuffsaid

[Beer Baron]

well it's not just about a raw CoF number. you need to consider the range, and the temperature that it can operate effeciently in.

i really dont know how to quantify dustiness other than to say i didn't think they were too dusty. for example i currently use endless CC-R for track work and they are crazy dusty, and LOUD and dont stop at all when cold.

the endless SSS are a fairly good pad for street/spirited street driving.

[djr81]

For my 10 cents worth, a mu figure in the in 0.3 to 0.4 range sucks dog's balls. I would be looking for something with mu of atleast 0.45.

[nuffsaid]

Argh I guess coefficients are hard to make a decision by because they operate at different temps like you said.

Best thing to go on is experience then.

BB: in comparison to say Bendix Ultimates how dusty are the SSS? I think the Ultimates are almost on par with the current pads I have in terms of dustiness, except its more of a fine brown than black dust.

[Beer Baron]

they are less dusty that ultimates.

[robbo33]

what does it coast for a set of endless sss front and rear?

[nuffsaid]

Okay just found out my current Formula Ferodos are 0.46 coeffecient with temp range from 0 to 650 celsius. I am guessing the endless pads wont be as good then.

Although because they are cooler pads, they would probably have a nicer initial bite, and hopefully less dust than the Ferodos