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k heres the story, ive got 20gz, im on my red Ps, which means no turbo or v8.. i am definitly going to buy a car, a nice car, by the end of this year.. so no one say save your cash n buy a turbo or v8 when you get of your Ps, cos im not a patient person.. anyways.. any suggestions..

so far my top picks are

- N/A R34 25GT

- BMW convertible

- Integra Type R

any more suggestions?

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you have also got the NA supra - but test drive to see what you like. The integra would probably be the most fun to drive because of the extra oomph at the end of the rev range. But if your looking for power, then yeah probably the 93+ na supra - 168kws and is a pretty smooth engine

hmmm... supra? not to sure bout the n/a supra, never been a fan of them, very very wide looking...im in love with the fact of haveing an r34, but ive coped so much critisism from every person ive told? "never buy a non turbo skyline"...im guessing that 99% of the peopel who have said that have never actually driven a n/a r34 skylines.. wats your guys oppinions?

Been meaning to do this post for a while... for under 20 grand, and to be P plate legal you can get:

Mitsubishi FTO (94 - 98) 2L V6 or 2L V6 Mivec, Auto (more common)/Manual

Prices from 11k to 16k

Pajero Convertible (1989-1999) V6 Petrol engine (diesel turbo not good for P's)

Prices from 12-16k

Most are scruffy, convertible tops are usually worn

300zx 2 seaters (1989-1998) coupe or convertible 3L V6 N/A auto/manual

Prices from 12k to 17k

N15 Pulsar (1995-2000) 3 door hatchback or 2 door coupe. Comes with an Autech tuned SR20DE that puts out 175hp, or an SR16VE. Auto/Manual.

Prices from 12k to 18k

Quite a cool car... these things with SR20's can keep up with a stock R32 GTSt. THey are however quite rare, so be prepared to wait a while to find one.

R33 GTS or GTS4 2 door coupe (sedan's are too heavy for SEVS eligibility). Auto/Manual, Series 1's are a lot more common than Series 2's.

Prices from 10k to 15k

R34 25GT or 25GTX Coupe or sedan, tiptronic/manual. 2.5L only (2.0L too pissweak to be eligible for SEVS)

Prices from 15k to 20k+

V35 250GT sedan, auto. 2.5L N/A VQ25DE.

Prices from 18k (average price 22k+). They're quite rare in the sub 20k however we've seen a few go at these prices at auctions, so if you want one you have to be actively bidding for one.

the 300GT are from 20k and higher (average price 25k+), 350GT are from 23k and higher (average price 32k+).

Toyota Celica Convertible (1989-1993) 2.0L n/a auto (manuals are rare as hens teeth), electric roof, optional leather

Prices from 11k to 16k

Toyota Celica Convertible (1993-1998) 2.0L n/a auto (manuals are rare as hens teeth), electric roof, optional leather

Prices from 13k to 18k

Basically just a shape update

Toyota Corolla 2 Door Coupe (Levin or Sprinter) AE101 (1991-1995), 4AGE 20V engine.

Prices from 10.5k to 15k

AE111 (1995 onwards)

11k to 16k

The AE101 comes in a supercharged 4AGE 16V as well, but its not P plate friendly.

Toyota Chaser JZX100 Grande... 3L N/A 2JZ

11k to 15k

Toyota Prius 1.5L petrol/electric hybrid (97-2001)

12k - 14k

Toyota Soarer 3.0L N/A 2JZ, auto (manuals are very hard to find in this price bracket). (1993 onwards)

Prices from 11k to 16k

Toyota Supra SZ or SZ Aero-top (removable top, auto only) 3.0L N/A 2JZ

1993 - 1998 (the newer ones are usually more than 20k)

Prices Autos from 12k to 17k

Aero-tops from 16.5k to 20k plus

Manuals from 14k to 20k

Toyota Aristo 3.0Q (1991 to 1997) 3.0L N/A 2JZ Auto

Prices from 10k to 14k or less.

This is the older version Lexus GS300 that was sold in Australia. Easy way to get a pimp car on the cheap. (My old man's gettin a 2JZ twin turbo one in the near future if all goes to plan :huh:)

If you're in VIC, you can also get an R32 GTSt be under the power to weight restriction for P platers. You can't under NSW and QLD law from memory.

There are cheaper ones available, but the prices I've given are for good clean examples that you can import under SEVS with no hassles, ie, no accident history, no modifications etc.

I'll update this post in a while with some examples, pics n stuff from our website... and put it in a nice clean layout.

These are ones you can import directly from japan. the prices are to have the car landed and complied. Being SEVS imports you need to allow for a new set of tyres (and anything else which the workshop might need to comply the car) and registration on top.

Prices are cheapest at the auctions every day, if we buy em from dealerships and privately you'll have to expect to pay a little more.

If you do however choose to get a BMW convertible or any Type R VTEC yo, please make sure you allow in your budget for the lipstick and pantihose you'll need to wear to go with the car :huh:

hey good on ya champ, top post there, im sure that would have helped alot of people cosidering buying a car on the Ps, sure helped me alot.. thanks again... still open to anyones opinion on what they think would be there choice

If you only have a budget of 20K, look for a car around the 15K mark, that way you have extra for insurance, rego, miscelaneous repairs, services, minor mods etc...

Don't be one of those ppl who spend the whole lot on a car...whinge tht they can't afford insurance and then stack it and post a thread on here expecting sympathy.

Get insurance quotes first before purchasing...not vice versa.

get the Honda they hall ass......

or just go the r34

i got a non turbo r33, i didnt buy it to go fast even no i dont think it gose slow. I brought it for the love of the Line.

Just face it your not goin to have a fast car when your on your [p] any more.

they fu*ked it all up with there stupid laws....

I say buy a R33 or R32 GTS25 for 10k-13k and spend the other 7 you got left on the engine. make a hard core NA and the cops will never no. Get it goin better than the turbo lines..... remember LAG.....

well if i was to go a skyline it would be the r34, my fav shape, then for three years i can save and buy a full gtr set up?, rb26dett, breaks, gearbox..etc, plus my mate maen works a KRT Kahlil Race Transmitions, n he specialises in nissan race gearboxes and engines.. so im sure i can get some help there.. do you guys think this would be worth it?

Can i be a bitch? If u dont wanna read this then pass and read on -

All cars suck at keeping value - in the last 3 years ive had my car ive noticed that on general ALL skylines drop by about 2k MAX per year. IE spend your 20k now, and this time next year its 18k, then 16k, then 14k in 3 years...

If you were looking at doing something with your money would u buy something that depreciates as bad?

My advice is buy a house with 20k, and enjoy the wealth. when u are 30 years old and have your own house almost paid off, then buy a nice car to go with it FFS.

/end rant - r34 manual :huh:

My advice is buy a house with 20k, and enjoy the wealth. when u are 30 years old and have your own house almost paid off, then buy a nice car to go with it FFS

Or drown in interest on the account for the next 10+ years and waste your youth. My advice is to buy a house when you can afford a house. Enjoy yourself until it's time to settle down (but don't do anything stupid..). Money isn't everything.

R34 sounds good. :wave: Don't waste money on trying to get the NA to perform though.

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