Al Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 Recently i have been seriously looking for a bigger turbo for my car, but wasn't too keen on the lag factor. My aim to to acheive 280-320rwkw, but i would like to keep it's drivability. B4 i go on: i have done a comprehensive search and wasn't able to find anything on this issue, so please if you know of a thread post it up below. For those in the know i would REALLLLLY appreciate your input and advise, i am all "ears"! My idea is to replace my turbo and manifold with a twin turbo setup (gtr style). By using 2 smaller turbos (350hp each) this should, i think, produce about 400kw at the crank. MODIFICATIONS (Things i know that need replacement): -New manifold (Can a GTR manifold fit on the RB25det head?) -Custom front pipes -Dual oil/water cooling lines for turbos (can the original line be split into two to cool both?) -Custom intake pipes (from filter to turbo and from turbo to fmic) CURRENT MODS: -Wolf 3D V4.51 R33 Plugin -Fount Mount Intercooler -Cold Air induction (Pod in sealed partition with 4" drain pipe feed from front bar. -Adjustable boost -3" hi-flow exhaust system from turbo -H/D clutch MODS TO BE COMPLETED WITH UPGRADE -550cc injectors -bosch fuel pump -bosch fuel regulator -Ceramic coating of all piping (ex. manifold, intercooler pipes, turbo cover, plenium, exhaust from turbo to cat., etc) -ADJ. ex. cam gear (optional) QUESTIONS: -Is this project possible and financially fissable? -Which turbo's would best do the job? -Any other mods that you would recommend doing (cams, etc.)? -Has this been done B4? -How does the GTR manifold work? Does it use 3 cylinders per turbo? -Any other information/points are most welcome. Again, i would REALLY appreciate everyones input and like to say THANKS in advance. ALAN C. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggala Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 OK high power and lag go hand in hand un less you increase capacity sso you want 280-320 rwkw with boost down low the best way to do this is with an rb 25/30 motlowth on hearhas a similar set upto what you want and thats how he did it the twin turbo's are possible but you will still have lagg. he is making 310-320 rwkw @ 1 bar full boost by 4 k rpm I believe meggala btw go to my web site and read the mods section It might help Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-284199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo_Boy Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 -Is this project possible and financially fissable? Possible yes. financially fissable not really. I no some one, with one in a S13. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-284408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 Hi Nismo_Boy, how about we cost this idea... MODIFICATIONS -New manifold $1200 no a GTR one won't fit. -Custom front pipes $800 -Dual oil/water cooling lines for turbos $300 -Custom intake pipes $400 MODS TO BE COMPLETED WITH UPGRADE -550cc injectors $800 -bosch fuel pump $500 -bosch fuel regulator $300 - Ceramic coating of all piping $700 - ADJ. ex. cam gear $250 - 2X hi flowed RB25 turbos $2200 each - Dyno tune $400 That's a nice round $10,000 but the RB25 internals won't handle 320 rwkw, so you will need........... - forged pistons $2000 - conrods $2200 - balance, gaskets, seals, o'ring block say $1800 - oil cooler $900 - radiator upgrade $1000 - camshafts $1600 - porting of cylinder head $700 And that totals $19,850. When do you want to start? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-287318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_L3ThAL Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 might as well get another skyline already modified faster than yours, or an r34 :D:D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-287364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamikazeR33 Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 sydneykid is right, for the money it may not be really worth it i had a shopping list of over 20k i decided against it also there is a rb25dett in the for sale section Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-287877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpspeed Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 How about selling the RB25DET, and replacing it with a stock RB26DETT. That would give you a far better basis to begin from. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-287976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 garret gt40 is only like 2k just wak that on Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-289271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpspeed Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 If only it was that easy. All the extra hardware and mods required, plus tuning is going to make that original 2K for a bare turbo look cheap. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-289301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 cheeper than a tt setup gt40 2200 manifold 1000 wastegate used 400 gaskets 300 oild water lines 400 instal new pipes for ic 1200 (labour for work turbo on off) about 5 k then tune Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-289331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted April 20, 2003 Author Share Posted April 20, 2003 THANKS FOR ALL YA INPUT GUYS!! Looks like i need to go back to the single turbo idea, as the deal with NISMO_BOY may fall through. It was pure coinsidance that he was selling this setup at the time i posted this idea. But i consider $4000 for basically a block, manifold (modified rb26DETT) and 2 worn turbos a bit rich, not to mention risky. But now i am back to my original delema. What turbo will best do the job and has the least lag? I am under no illusion that i will get more lag, just want the best package. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-289575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 3040 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-289708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nismo_trip Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 try a smaller HKS item If you can like a 2835 or something, good power and good response Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-289769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo_Boy Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 Originally posted by Sydneykid Hi Nismo_Boy, how about we cost this idea... MODIFICATIONS -New manifold $1200 no a GTR one won't fit. -Custom front pipes $800 -Dual oil/water cooling lines for turbos $300 -Custom intake pipes $400 MODS TO BE COMPLETED WITH UPGRADE -550cc injectors $800 -bosch fuel pump $500 -bosch fuel regulator $300 - Ceramic coating of all piping $700 - ADJ. ex. cam gear $250 - 2X hi flowed RB25 turbos $2200 each - Dyno tune $400 That's a nice round $10,000 but the RB25 internals won't handle 320 rwkw, so you will need........... - forged pistons $2000 - conrods $2200 - balance, gaskets, seals, o'ring block say $1800 - oil cooler $900 - radiator upgrade $1000 - camshafts $1600 - porting of cylinder head $700 And that totals $19,850. When do you want to start? Why would i want to start, when i can just buy the one im selling for $4k Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/14153-hlep-considering-bulding-a-rb25dett/#findComment-290077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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