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leetom Proficient

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thanks for the input jerome,better post up your mods and the performance results after fmic install,and buy the way can anyone enlighten me to the benifits of returnfeed over conventional piping,is there any diff in length? would one have more lag than the other? has any stagea owner noticed lag after upgrade? ....maybe a 33 owner might be able to answer my nosey questions

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yea will do just gona keep the mods basick . fmic , pod , 3inch exaust turbo back boost controll and looking at geting a haltec interceptor ecu(piggyback) then get her on the dyno.didnt notice any major lag issues with new fmic

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yea will do just gona keep the mods basick . fmic , pod , 3inch exaust turbo back boost controll and looking at geting a haltec interceptor ecu(piggyback) then get her on the dyno.didnt notice any major lag issues with new fmic

Hi Jerome,

did u have to relocate the washer bottle?

any btw...does the cooler piping touch the radiator hose?...coz not sure if over period if it rubs..might wear the radiator hose thin...dont want the hose bursting unexpectedly.

mike40sydney Experienced

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Well its christmas time and I had a free day to stick my front mount in!

The install went pretty well. I bought a cheap Just Jap R33 kit, and suprisingly everything lined up pretty well.

I had to make my own lower brackets that were longer than the ones provided, and dropped the intercooler 30mm to ensure it would fit under the top of the front bar. Other than that it all came together much quicker than I expected!

Now it has brought up a few little problems!

I had to remove my windscreen washer pump and bottle to make way for the piping! So now i cant clean my windows! Has anyone had this problem, and know of a good solution? like a smaller bottle that works?

It now hits boost cut all the time too! so i had to put the standard little brass restrictor back in the vacume to the turbo. Will an SAFC II be able to overide boost cut? I understand the ECU takes a value from the AFM to determin the cut off...

Also I cant run the intake feed for the standard air box because it fouls the new piping...

I dont really want to run a pod, because they are loud and i want to keep this thing as sleeper and stealth as possible, but it looks like i have no choice, does anyone know a quiet pod? (haha a weird question i know!)

Any help here would be awesome! thanks guys!

Ben.

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i fitted mine today i turned the washer bottle around so its a side mount now lol had to modify the brackets etc but fitted in ok and still the filler neck is in the stock position i also modified the intake scoop by heating it wit a hot air gun till is soft then fitted it on and pushed down on it and now fits like stock and dont look like its been modified at all ill post pics when i get a chance .

mike40sydney Experienced

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hey mike, did you move the trans cooler and convert to electric fan?

Im looking at doing my FMIC soon. Any other things to watch out for?

left tranny cooler in place and trimmed the fan blades a little to clear the top pipe i had to bring the fmic out a little to clear the cooler which ment i had to cut into the bar a little more than usual but it worked out fine

Tangles Grand Master

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Nice work there lads.

Im using the Apexi fmic suited for a 180sx, its a return air feed type, its made of both Tube-and-Fin and Bar-and-Plate design, so got the best of both worlds.

There is no noticeble extra lag worthy of mentioning after the install (maybe a touch, but thats as to be expected). Once tuned tho the car performed very well.

Now with the higflow turbo on, awaiting a tune, I expect it'll perform better, lol :pwned:

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I also have an ARC return feed type frontmount, and i cant notice any more lag at all then when i had the standard intercooler, and i am making as much power as anyone else with same mods ie: Alex and he had a gtr cooler, in my opinion there is less piping with a return feed cooler than there is with the other type so technically there should be more lag with the other setup

Simon

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left tranny cooler in place and trimmed the fan blades a little to clear the top pipe i had to bring the fmic out a little to clear the cooler which ment i had to cut into the bar a little more than usual but it worked out fine

neat job on the snorkel by mike (and mitch).

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mike40sydney Experienced

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post-26949-1171185291.jpg fitted up my fmic and when i removed the stock pipework there was a small hose that comes from what looks like a solonoid on a compressor and conected to the pipe that feeds the plenum it had a smaller pipe pressed into it to which the rubber hose im refering to was atatched.the new pipe fittings do not have provision for this .....where do i connect it now? any ideas guys????? Edited by mike40sydney
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a few ideas...

GREDDY INTAKE PLENUM...

no piping over the fan, 1m less piping... better response!

easier to get to spark plugs...

Thats what i'll be doing when it comes time to upgrade the Stagea!... indeed

just a more expensive way to do it.. but better in the long run!

Tony B

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3intheBack Rising Star

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.. the radiator hose is touching but theres not much pressure there...

I think you'll find that 'Pressure' is not the governing factor - vibration is. If the pipe and hose are touching they will rub and wear through. If you can zip tie them to stay apart, then zip tie them together firmly. Better still, cut up a 2 inch length of old hose and wrap it around the radiator hose - held by zip ties, at the point were the hose and pipe touch, this will act as a barrier that it has to wear through before it gets down to the radiator hose.

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there was a small hose that comes from what looks like a solonoid on a compressor and conected to the pipe that feeds the plenum it had a smaller pipe pressed into it to which the rubber hose im refering to was atatched.the new pipe fittings do not have provision for this .....where do i connect it now? any ideas guys?????

The extra hose you now have is the one that goes to the power steering pump, - I would assume it controls a pressure switch that bleeds off excess fluid pressure at high revs - otherwise you would loose all feel in the steering at high speed.

Since it works by reading the boost pressure in the intake plenum, you simply need install a T piece into some other line that is registering boost pressure. They will have given you a spare metre of hose with the kit.

I joined it into the line that runs from the turbo to the boost controller since it was close by.

Personally I am not sure if this alters the boost pressure signal going to the boost controller - which would be a bad thing.

Or you could run in over the top of the motor and attach it to one of the nipples that you would use for the boost gauge.

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