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Ok i think i have a hard thing to pull off here but im going to try. I'm almost 17 in march and thats when i can get my p's. I want to get a skyline, 180sx, soarer or something nice like that. Problem is insurance, money and my parents. I think i might be able to get money to get a R33 (hopefully) from a loan off my mum. But insurance is going to kill me. I want to at least get third party insurance and i would like to get full comprehensive insurance but its just too exspensive. Do any of you guys know of a good insurer besides justcars that is ideal for a person in my situation. Also i need to figure out what car would be best for me, i really want a turbo but i really havent got much skills in mechanics all i know how to do is change the oil and oil filter on a basic commodore.

Any suggestions on what car i should get and why would be helpful and also good insurers:). Thanks guys.

btw i live in QLD.. so the difference in laws and w/e.

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If you cant afford the insurance, you cant afford the car mate. A turbo R33 is a fast car, and it gets sideways without too much effort. Please, buy a non turbo or a regular car until you can afford the insurance!

:) See thats the problem, if the new laws kick in, in july 07 p plates cant get v8's,superchargers or turbos until they are 25 i think, it may be younger but im pretty sure its 25. So i gotta get my dream car before july. Edited by Kodak

Sorry buddy to come across as an old man who tries to act all mighty telling you what to do here but DON'T get the car if you can't afford the insurance, period!

As much as you may think you are ready for a turbo car, at your age, I'm sorry to say, you're not... That's by no means a judgment of your character (ie, hoon) but believe me if you either by accident or deliberately get the ass end of one of these cars out, especially on boost, things can get messy VERY quickly.

This is why, if you must have a turbo performance car at this age, get comprehensive insurance, there would be nothing worse than you literally just pissing away $10k+ for nothing

Anyway, that's my 2c, take it or leave it

If you cant afford the insurance, you cant afford the car mate. A turbo R33 is a fast car, and it gets sideways without too much effort. Please, buy a non turbo or a regular car until you can afford the insurance!

I agree with this 100%!!! Mate, there is a huge difference between being able to afford to buy a skyline and being able to afford to own a skyline.

If you cant afford insurance, 98 rom fuel, parts or quality oils and stuff approx every 5000kms for a car like this, DONT GET IT!!!! These cars have a strong following and will be popular for years to come, so you will be able to get one when you can afford/handle one of them. Dont start at the top mate, I'm pretty sure that the F1 race car drivers didnt start their racing careers in F1, they mostly start out on go-karts and stuff. If you get a normal car to start out with, and then step up to a Skyline you really will appreciate what you 've got all the more when you do get it. And, if your unfortunate enough to have some minor misshaps early in your driving career, you WILL be thankful that you only have to fork out for repairs to the cheap car rather than having a Skyline repair bill.

If your only just getting your "P" plates that prob means that your young and dont have the greatest income in the world, and not that much driving experience under your belt to control one of these cars properly. Prob the two worst things that a Skyline owner can have is a lack of driving experience and lack of money. You must have at least half a brain because you had enough sence to ask this question to right people to start with here on SAU. Do yourself a favour mate and get another car first to cut your teeth on, make sure it is rear wheel drive that way at least you are getting the right experience rather than eventually getting out of a front wheel drive car to a rear wheel drive Skyline.

But, if you insist. Try "Torque Car Insurance" or "Vigil Car Insurance" they are without a doubt the best that i have come across. My Skyline is with TORQUE and my wifes Skyline is with VIGIL, both good. I got my licence as soon as I could mate and I'm now 34. I've driven trucks, cars, forklifts and all sorts of stuff. I bought my skyline 2 years ago and I still have all the respect in the world for it, as do alot of my friends who own Skylines aswell. In wet or dry conditions these cars demand respect because the minute that you dont respect them, you'll quickly find yourself either be out of pocket for repairs or a leading story on the six o'clock news.

PS. Sorry for the long winded post that tells you what you prob didnt want to hear but all the best mate with whatever you decide. :)

Actually DJ Brave that post was helpful. The reason i posted in the firstplace here was to find what negative feed back id get and so far its good because its not stupid stuff like because your a male or anything. I do have a decent income and it gets better each year ( apprenticeship). I also have a rwd car that my dad got me to learn in when i first got my learners a Holden Commodore lol. And ever since i was a lil pecker i drove go karts:). But yeah im going to try and get something half decent for when i get my p's. Any suggestions on a different car that is nice but would be good for me.

yeah dude, just keep saving up for another few years and it will pay off

dont worry about skylines at ur age. insurance is rediculous even for someone older than u. i dont believe in paying so much insurance that by 2-3 yrs time you could have bought the same car lol

hey im only 23 and i just bought my first skyline... drove a 1.8l pulsar for 6 years before that

.....ever since i was a lil pecker i drove go karts:).

Driving a go-kart in a controlled environment is a tad different to driving a "sports car" on the road.

If you think for an instant that any go-karting experience is going to help you out on the road, you're kidding yourself.

Stick with the Paseo, get the insurance under your name, get some driving experience under your belt, and get your insurance rating up.

Save some money, test drive a bunch of cars to find what suits you best, and THEN go buy your "dream car".

.......or you cold just run out and get a personal loan, buy a Skyline, write it off, then be stuck having to pay off a car that you no longer have.

I agree with everyone else that has posted and said dont get a r33 gts25t, if you really really have to have a skyline start with the most basic and cheapest model, try and find a r32 gts in resonable condition.

When i was 15 i bought my 1st skyline ,a r32 gts auto (rb20de) it was a great car to learn to drive in (even tho it was auto) it was very reliable, looked good, wasnt fast at all but it got the job done, the only parts i ever replaced on that was the middle air vent, it was a good looking and reliable 1st car.

When i was about 16 i sold the gts and bought a 1989 gtst auto (rb20det) for the same price that i got the gts for but it was in much better condition, for its age it was pretty mint and had only done 125xxxkms which is stuff all for a 89 model, that was a great 2nd car. It wasnt very quick when it was standard but once you get the exhaust done they go pretty well, they can be very dangerous in the wet if you dont how to control the car once it loses traction, so i wouldnt recomend that as a 1st car either.

I sold the gtst about a half a year ago and bought a manual 1998 r33 gts25t (I am now 18), it is a awsome car and once again will it will bite you in the ass very badly in the wet if you dont know what your doing. It is resonable cheap to run, gets anywhere from 450-500kms to a full tank depending on how you drive it, and so far has been very reliable.

So what im trying to say is start at the bottom and work your way up,dont buy the fastest car you can buy if you have little to no driving experience in a powerfull RWD, and if you really need a skyline for your 1st car get a r32 gts :)

Edited by nizmo_freek

I again would have to agree with what basically EVERYONE here has said mate, there is no conflicting arguments, which really is telling you something.

Firstly $3k insurance is a massive amount of money and if you have the money to buy a s2 R33 with that type of insurance money in 2-3 years time you'll have enough to buy yourself a R33 GTR or R34 GTT and most likely find the insurance will be cheaper.

These cars really are powerful machines and in the wet they are flate out dangerous even if you are being careful.

At 16 years old i just really dont think you should be purchasing a GTS-t without the proper experience. a GTS is definatly a better idea, they still look the same, they just dont have the added power that really is the main point most people are trying to make here.

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