R33 ECU's - What to choose?

[Jetdat]

although pricey, motec and the autronic are the way to go....personally i would stay away from the rest.

and choosing between the two mentioned i would go the latter, the autronic is the better unit, however harder to tune and only one guy(mech engineer with lots of race exp.) in melbourne if not australia i would trust to tune it....pm me if anyone needs to contact him.

[Guest INASNT]

u dont want motec or autronic unless u r building a drag or circuit car!!

All that data logging etc it has is useless for a road car

[DJ_L3ThAL]

after heaps of research i went for the powerfc and could not be happier, im actually half way through modding my hand controller to be all blue lights and match the other million blue lights in my car :D:D

[Al]

Originally posted by Adzmax

After the last SAU dyno day at Goodguys I'm a bit wary of the wolf 3D's coz of Al's car and I've heard a few ppl say that they arn't as good as they are claimed. You heard any bad feedback about them?

:confused:

At the dyno day, the car was running on 19's" and not 100% tunned. Since then i had retuned, using my stockies, and ran a 190rwkw, on a dyno dynamics dyno, operated by the rep. You liturally feel the torque loss with the 19's as you are driving, but it is worth it.

The struggle is finding the right tunner. The car is now running much smoother and am happier with the performance.

**But take heed to what INASNT is saying, if you are not planning big power mods stick with the apexi piggy-backs.

[Jetdat]

you dont have to get the data logging if you dont want to and will save dollars...

i agree that motec and autronic are for the more serious applications, however they are a lot more refined units with many adjustment points, allowing for a much more polished end result, from idle characteristics to the power and torque curves....even will increase reliability.

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by DJ_L3ThAL

after heaps of research i went for the powerfc and could not be happier, im actually half way through modding my hand controller to be all blue lights and match the other million blue lights in my car :D

hey let me know when u do that mod, then u can do my hand controller 2!

[Guest PatPat34]

Mines is a good choice, they have the best tunning and computing tech.....recommand!

i am usgin HKS F-Con S, cheap and great! but can't find any one really good at F-Con S in Melbourne, i went to Sydeny to tune the car!!! but i heard one on Richmond they could tune it, but have to wait until the end of this year.............can give them a call:

SHOP: Promech

Vince: 94281519

he is the owner, he is the offical HKS dealer in Mel.

[Guest INASNT]

unless u want to fly your car to the mines workshop in japan everytime u do a mod to get it retuned then i wouldnt use a mines computer!!

[king_kw13]

what are big power mods Al? Is big power mods defined as

- Larger Injectors?

- Aftermarket Cam Shafts?

- Aftermarket Turbo?

- FMIC?

- Big NISMO Sticker?

[Guest INASNT]

- Big NISMO Sticker?

thats the only mod u need

[Guest PatPat34]

Originally posted by INASNT

unless u want to fly your car to the mines workshop in japan everytime u do a mod to get it retuned then i wouldnt use a mines computer!!

Wrong, what u need to do is tell the Mines workshop in JP what kind of modifacations u done to ur car, they have the software and input the data in to fit your specifications.

one of my friend who put on a HKS GT turbo in his skyline, and using Mines computer, runs pretty good!

[Guest INASNT]

hmm some1 thousands of miles away programing your computer without knowing what condition your parts are in and how exactly it is setup doesent sound all that accurate when with u can get something like a pfc, motec, autronic tuned infront of your eyes on the dyno in real time.

[Jay95R33]

Denham is right - especially when weather/climate can affect the tune too !!

I think Australia's climate is just a little different to Japan's...

J

[Guest PatPat34]

you are both right.................you have to provide some detail info to them in Australia such as petorl here is #98 max, but in Jap is over #100,

and i also agree that computer need to tune by mech with notebook on your car, but Mines seems done pretty good job with this, They provide lots of computers to HK, Malay, Aus and even North America. Although it can't achieve max potential from the computer, but still powerfull enough. Same as Mugon from Honda, they also provides computer like Mines do, but that computer is not sub-com but replace the whole stock one.......might be a different story.

i like Motech, but it is illegal to use onroad.

[Guest INASNT]

just as an example come do the same thing with their chips here in aus.U tell them your mods ex cam, head work and they program a chip for you based on generic data they have gathered on how your car should perform and program that data in. The reality is that every car is different.

My friend had a come chip sone like this on his 304 and the a/r ratios were all farked when he got it tested on the dyno, fact is u cant tune a car based on other cars and data.

[Guest PatPat34]

i aslo had experience similar with that, when i bought my F-Con S from HK. they help me tune the computer and told me what i need to do is go back, "Plug and play". but result come out there is one cylinder did not function. then need to send back, and tune again.

after that i went on dyno to see the difference with and with out F-Con, it shows me when i run full boost (1 bar), it has a little better effect. thats y i went all the way to sydney and tune it with BD4s. and it come out pretty good.........

[Guest INASNT]

so u gonna take back your first statement about mines having the best aftermarket ecu's?? since u cant tune them locally

[Guest PatPat34]

hehe...............but most of case i think Mines still done a good job, they are really good at ecus, thats no doubt.

[Jetdat]

as INASNT said it takes a lot to tune an ECU properly....

my friends sr20 bluebird had the motec ecu, and the car was dynoed a few times over a month period, got feeback from the driver, under different driving conditions to fine tune all aspects.

The final product was very impressive.

I do not mean to offend anyone, and it is just my opinion, after many many months of research and trials of different ECU's later, that i beleive autronic is better than the rest.

Downside is that it is not a cheap unit, and it takes many many hours on the dyno, which is not cheap, to fine tune.

And on top of all that only one guy who can tune it properly in melb.

[DJ_L3ThAL]

yer i got my powerfc done by ice, and nigel spent ages fine tuing it on ther dyno but still on cold nights and under differnt loads etc i got some pinging, i just noted when this happened and went back as i found new areas that needed fine tuning and we ironed them out within a week, think i onloy went back twice which was awesome considering now my car is 100%