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Hey Y'all, just a heads up that I'm going with a few mates to Winton, open Friday on March 2nd. The friend with the Lotus is bringing R-compounds to the party (so naturally I got some today) and we're shooting for a 1:40 (hopefully a shade under).

So if anyone's interested, holla - I've been twice before, and there's always heaps of interesting machinery (911 GT3 cup cars are AWESOME blasting past like you're standing still!!!!!), and the other folk there are all petrolheads, and GREAT to talk with. It's generally 6x20 or 25 minute sessions, with the canteen open all day, and petrol onsite.

A downer is that entry has just been bumped-up to $120, and now you need either a CAMS level-2 licence, or a $50 (available onsite) AASA trackday licence. (The AASA licence is valid at Calder & Wakefield too).

Oh, and I've seen a couple of Supras there before, and I know of at least 1 that's headed up this time, but NEVER any SKYLINES (other than mine) . . . . . Where's the love? ! !

REPRESENT ! ! >_<

-Nathan.

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Haha - Yup, weather's like that!

Last time I was up there, I rattled off a few mid->high 1:43's before lunch, when it was still low 30-degree temps. After lunch it climbed to mid/high 30's (37 max I think) and even though I drove harder, braked later, treaded closer to the edge through the turns, couldn't get below 1:44 even again.

Admittedly I do tend to over-drive at every available chance, but I put in some genuinely tidy, fast laps in the afternoon . . . for no gain ! (still heller-good fun though)

Oh - I've put $5 brake-ducts on at all four corners (thankyou bunnings) and that's still not enough to keep MY brakes cool on a high-30 degree day. I do brake suicidally late though - a legacy of racing Karts for a few years.

(adding more ducts to the rear for this one, and water-mist cooling in the front ducts, to go with the intercooler/radiator spray)

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Muhahaha - Got a Z32 afm yesterday morning . . . . now to max-out those stock injectors before next Friday! ! !

Here's a Vid of last time I was up, note sweetness of the GT3's exhaust as it blasts by . . (Did I mention I braked later than him?)

Like the Tankslapper at the end?? -I did that another 3 or so times that day. . . . :( (The one off the ripple-strip was BRUTAL!)

So - Anyone else interested? Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

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Muhahaha - Got a Z32 afm yesterday morning . . . . now to max-out those stock injectors before next Friday! ! !

Here's a Vid of last time I was up, note sweetness of the GT3's exhaust as it blasts by . . (Did I mention I braked later than him?)

Like the Tankslapper at the end?? -I did that another 3 or so times that day. . . . :wacko: (The one off the ripple-strip was BRUTAL!)

So - Anyone else interested? Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

haha nice one...

ahhaha not bad driving dude. You'll find most of us do our own SAUVIC/WRX Track days, not many of us go to these open days anymore... they can get a bit crowded etc... You should come to the SAU track days.....

1.43 in a gtst on street tyres? thats pretty good!

Ahhhh yeah sorry i was thinking of the cheap open days, they were always crowded...
Agreed!!

Fancy having dedicated race cars on the track at the same time as a family car, and everything in between :) . Did that cheap weekend open day once and NEVER again :)

ahhaha not bad driving dude. You'll find most of us do our own SAUVIC/WRX Track days, not many of us go to these open days anymore... they can get a bit crowded etc... You should come to the SAU track days.....

1.43 in a gtst on street tyres? thats pretty good!

Ahh yes, that's the plan (if My CAMS licence & SAU membership turn up!) - It'll be full steam ahead for the March 31st WRX/SAU day at Phillip Island.. . . . :wave: (SO hanging out for that track!)

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Agreed!!

Fancy having dedicated race cars on the track at the same time as a family car, and everything in between :) . Did that cheap weekend open day once and NEVER again :laugh:

I did it and had a blast. Really fun overtaking but gotta be really aware of all the cars around! So worth $25 since I was already up there.

Don't like it, don't do it. I am the organiser of those days. :rofl:

:D A little too touche there mate. Not everyone will like all the events they go too, as an organiser you need to take it in your stride and maybe see if there is anything you can do to make it better.

Maybe on the entry forms ask competitors to tick a class they feel comfortable in and group them roughly together.

Example:

- Dedicated track car

- Occational club track car

- Modified performance vehicle

- Factory performace vehicle

- Daily Driver

- Family Car

By grouping them, the pace will be somewhat even and there would be less risk on the track.

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:ninja: A little too touche there mate. Not everyone will like all the events they go too, as an organiser you need to take it in your stride and maybe see if there is anything you can do to make it better.

Maybe on the entry forms ask competitors to tick a class they feel comfortable in and group them roughly together.

Example:

- Dedicated track car

- Occational club track car

- Modified performance vehicle

- Factory performace vehicle

- Daily Driver

- Family Car

By grouping them, the pace will be somewhat even and there would be less risk on the track.

We have tried that, it doesn't work, remember this is a "Family Fun Day" not a race event, not a club sprint event, if we did it the way you are suggesting we would be going to midnight, having sessions with 2 cars in them while everyone else stands around. The current system works well, there has been very little drama and the feedback has been enourmously in favour of what we are currently doing. If it ain't broke, why fix it? But I am always open to better ways of doing things, ask those that have been coming to them for a while, we are continuously improving the running for the event.
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