xxx_25L Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 i was wondering if installing a safc will make a big dirrernce i curently have - air pod - zorst - intercooler -boost controller - fuel cut defender on this setup i made 198kwrw on 11 psi i was looking for abit more power around 15kw i was wondering what gains i will get from a safc and can it be used with a fuel cut defender or is it piontless thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjeng Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 i was wondering if installing a safc will make a big dirrernce i curently have - air pod - zorst - intercooler -boost controller - fuel cut defender on this setup i made 198kwrw on 11 psi i was looking for abit more power around 15kw i was wondering what gains i will get from a safc and can it be used with a fuel cut defender or is it piontless thanks not pointless at all with your setup. The SAFC is the entry point to engine management. I'm no expert but a good tuner may squeeze 15+kw gain over the stock ECU map at a guess. IN the old days when I ran an e-manage, only cat back zorst & R34 SMIC upgrade I had gains of that order. I was initially running the same, but stock boost of 7psi and it went from about 155-160 to 175 with the Emanage which does essentially the same thing as the SAFC. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3072897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 off topic but what is an SAFC? I'm assuming not an Apexi power FC? Mike Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3072979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff25gtst Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 safc - super air flow converter. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3073018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjeng Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 off topic but what is an SAFC?I'm assuming not an Apexi power FC? Mike as he said, made be Apexi. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3073063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxx_25L Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 what does it do exactly all i know is it lets you controle air fuel ratios Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3074323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WogsRus Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 i picked up about 30 rwKw but my car was running VERY ritch. I have an SAFC II Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3074356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Links Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 It works by tricking the ECU into thinking it's got a different amount of airflow which than allows you to add/remove fuel and lean it closer to 12:1 AFR... Problem is, it just changes where on the fuel/ignition maps it is, so timing is changed accordingly which can cause issues.. Good if you don't have enough for a PFC and using stock turbo.. should get around ~200kw with average mods as above.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3074374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff25gtst Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 yeh i have bought a safc last week. i am hoping to get up towards that 200 rwkw mark. hoping for somethiing above 180. getting a service then installing it and then time to go up on the dyno Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3074394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birnie Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Went the SAFC after all hey? That's OK, so did I initially and there's nothing wrong with that. just don't pay too much for installation if you're getting someone else to do it. If you're on a budget, ask around on the forums and get someone to do it for you. When i sold my SAFC-II 2 years ago (?) i also installed it for the guy for a case of beer. Bit fiddley but not too hard. Good luck with it, and if you can, ask the tuner for a before and after printout and post it up. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3074409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff25gtst Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 haha yeh mate decided to go the safc. decided to opt out and go the budget way and up the payments on my loan and get it out of the road and also start saving up some cash for future house. power fc wouldve been great but didnt have the dough. yeh looking around the albury area for a tuner. anyone had any experience with anyone around that area?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3074423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjeng Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Went the SAFC after all hey?That's OK, so did I initially and there's nothing wrong with that. just don't pay too much for installation if you're getting someone else to do it. If you're on a budget, ask around on the forums and get someone to do it for you. When i sold my SAFC-II 2 years ago (?) i also installed it for the guy for a case of beer. Bit fiddley but not too hard. Good luck with it, and if you can, ask the tuner for a before and after printout and post it up. its in the manual and u can download it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3074458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxx_25L Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 im already making around to 200kw mark so will there still be a good increase in power or have i hit the limit Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/165917-safc/#findComment-3074831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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