Replacing R33 Turbo.

[Jamie88]

Hey all, my turbo blew on my 33 series 1 yesterday and it obviously needs to be replaced. Im wanting to replace it with something bigger/better or get mine highflowed and rebuilt. Got a few questions

1. How much am I looking at for a rebuild and to get mine highflowed. Im in Brisbane any good places?

2. I will have a budget of around 1k for a new one, what turbo should I be looking at getting for this price?

3. How vital is it to get your car tuned if I replace it with an aftermarket turbo? (I have standard everything)

Any other helpful advice you wanna pass on to me about replacement turbos etc would be very much appreciated guys. Still learning about it all.... Thanks for your time. Here is my email if anyone wants to help me out on msn.

[email protected]

Thanks again.

Jamie

[SiR_RB]

get a sliding performance high-flow jobbie

but you'l need an aftermarket computer, fuel pump, intercooler, injectors if you want to make the most of your new turbo, also your stock clutch will need replacing in no time

and a good tune !

Edited May 27, 2007 by SiR_RB

[moonus]

if uve only got 1k get a high flow from slide, as a gcg or equivalent ball bearing one will set u back at least $1500. u will definitely need an aftermarket computer or piggyback. ud also need a bigger fuel pump and some injectors or at least a fuel reg.

[Birnie]

You can get the turbo without getting the ECU etc.....

Just keep the boost low-ish, and you will be OK.

But to get the most out of it, it's recommended to get all those mods casue then your car will absolutely rip !

[MANWHORE]

What birnie said is spot on the money. Agreed 100%.

Putting in an aftermarket turbo without a tune is not recommended for a few reasons. It's not really safe (if the airflow is in excess of generally what's safe. As birnie said, if boost is lowish, it MIGHT not be dangerous. This leads me onto the next point.

It is of no benefit to have an untuned computer wiht an aftermarket turbo. It will be slower, both because the ECU can't handle it, as well as the fact that naturally, a bigger turbo is less responsive.

At the moment, I've got a highflow on my car untuned, and it's a lot slower.

[MANWHORE]

so at a very minimum, you're looking at least at the cost of a new fuel pump, ecu, tune, turbo, clutch (won't handle the power), tyres (traction for the power), maybe wheels, diff (better traction), suspension (traction), exhaust, cat, intercooler and boost controller.

Injectors and MAF would be recommended too to take full advantage.

[Devils_Advocate21]

Did you go the Ceramic in the Cat with the blown turbo or an oil seal? Id be asking that question first

[Lazy-Bastard]

Another vote here for the Slide hi-flow

When you say your car has "stock everything", does that include exhaust and intercooler?

To get the best bang for your buck and semi-decent results, you will at least need a turbo back exhaust and a bigger intercooler (front mount or maybe R34 sidemount), as well as some type of ECU (even a piggyback like an SAFC will get you bye).

$1K isn't going to cover it really, as you're looking at that kind of money just for the hi-flow. Cooler and exhaust if you shop around/buy second hand you can probably pick up for another ~$700, ~$200 for an SAFC, then installation (if you can't do it yourself) and tuning (~$200) on top of that.

This kind of setup on a lowish boost level (11 - 12psi) should see you around the 200rwkw mark, but a stock clutch isn't going to last long at that power level.

Fuel pump, AFM, injectors should be fine until you hit 220rwkw+

[Adriano]

Or you could just get your turbo rebuilt with steel wheel, for less than $1000, speak to slide, but i think it comes to about $700

[BAMR33]

Standard hi-flow and fuel computer + tune. It'll be a bit over the thousand mark but the best option.

[Ultimategtr]

id suggest get the wheels changed to steel ones and keep the boost levels low till u can save up for the full shebang ecu tune and fuel.

[Birnie]

You could but i'd do the oppotsite.

Get your zorst/pos/fmic/ecu, that will get you to about 200rwkws and it'll be awesome.

Then you can change your turbo/injectors and AFM for another level of excitement

[Birnie]

....except i fotgot you blew your turbo....oops

[Jamie88]

Thank you heaps for the help so far guys, its opened my eyes a bit! As I said still learning about it all so sorry if I ask stupid questions. Ok so, if "light" driving and just taking it easy in the car for a while as I do anyway, will I get away with the following, while I save for the rest.

1. No frount mount.2.Standard clutch ( when you say my clutch should be replced is this because its going to slip from more power? Or your all just assuming im going to be drifting and doing burnouts?)3.Standard fuel system.4. Piggy back ecu ( IS that what the SAFC does?)

I have a turbo back exhaust (with standard dump pipe), Blow off valve, 2 way locked diff, Pod, so when saying stock I meant just had the usual sorta mods. Ok so what I really want to know as simply as you can put it, is this.

1.What are the bare necesseties I need (Try help me out with specific brands, and direct replacement turbos please or if its a better option to highflow mine?)

2.Around how much am I looking at (approx)

3. And where can I get it installed in brisbane! (and cost to do so) I can do the turbo,

Thank you so much guys your really helpin me out here. Elaborate and explain as much as you can on the above points its all helping.

Jamie

[BAMR33]

Thank you heaps for the help so far guys, its opened my eyes a bit! As I said still learning about it all so sorry if I ask stupid questions. Ok so, if "light" driving and just taking it easy in the car for a while as I do anyway, will I get away with the following, while I save for the rest.

1. No frount mount.2.Standard clutch ( when you say my clutch should be replced is this because its going to slip from more power? Or your all just assuming im going to be drifting and doing burnouts?)3.Standard fuel system.4. Piggy back ecu ( IS that what the SAFC does?)

I have a turbo back exhaust (with standard dump pipe), Blow off valve, 2 way locked diff, Pod, so when saying stock I meant just had the usual sorta mods. Ok so what I really want to know as simply as you can put it, is this.

1.What are the bare necesseties I need (Try help me out with specific brands, and direct replacement turbos please or if its a better option to highflow mine?)

2.Around how much am I looking at (approx)

3. And where can I get it installed in brisbane! (and cost to do so) I can do the turbo,

Thank you so much guys your really helpin me out here. Elaborate and explain as much as you can on the above points its all helping.

Jamie

Don't bother with a front mount or after market clutch if you haven't got that much cash to play with. An r34 side mount intercooler is always a good up grade for up to 220rwkW.

A high flow is a better option than putting another standard turbo back on because it might break in month, you just don't what condition it'll be in. A direct replacement if you mean aftermarket will be far too expensive.

The cheapest way out of it: standard turbo $300 + $300 labour (maybe, not sure though)

The most sensible way out it: Slide standard hi-flow $890 exchange + safc $210 + 300 labour + tune $200.

As for shops just ask around, friends and other skyline owners.

[Jamie88]

Thanks heaps man, where are the safc's sold? I can do all the labour myself at work/home. Will need the safc installed and a tune done elsewhere. The safc 2 is on ebay for about $400 good price or not?

[Hardman69]

You can put a Highflow, or just plain bigger turbo on without doing anything else, and as long as the factory (or equivalent) Wastegate actuator (5psi crack-open pressure) is used, the factory ECU will have no probs. In fact, it'll probably drop close to a pound of boost in the top end, since you won't get the stock turbo's boost creep.

(Explanation: The stock turbo has a tight exhaust housing, and small exducer, which means that nearly all the gas going through there is forced to work HARD spinning the turbo faster. When the wastegate can no longer bypass enough exhaust gas around the exhaust wheel at high load/rpm to properly limit what goes through the turbo housing, U get runaway boost creep. My stocky turbo made 10psi with only mods being FMIC and full exhaust)

Oh - and you'll find any other turbo quite laggy after the stock, especially if You've experienced full-Xzorst with stockie, 'coz MAN those Ceramic wheels spin up FAST ! ! I was seeing full boost around 3.000 RPM with the stockie, in 2nd !

[Jamie88]

You can put a Highflow, or just plain bigger turbo on without doing anything else, and as long as the factory (or equivalent) Wastegate actuator (5psi crack-open pressure) is used, the factory ECU will have no probs. In fact, it'll probably drop close to a pound of boost in the top end, since you won't get the stock turbo's boost creep.

(Explanation: The stock turbo has a tight exhaust housing, and small exducer, which means that nearly all the gas going through there is forced to work HARD spinning the turbo faster. When the wastegate can no longer bypass enough exhaust gas around the exhaust wheel at high load/rpm to properly limit what goes through the turbo housing, U get runaway boost creep. My stocky turbo made 10psi with only mods being FMIC and full exhaust)

Oh - and you'll find any other turbo quite laggy after the stock, especially if You've experienced full-Xzorst with stockie, 'coz MAN those Ceramic wheels spin up FAST ! ! I was seeing full boost around 3.000 RPM with the stockie, in 2nd !

Thanks mate, nicely set out for a learner like myself! Are the sliding perfromance highflows just standard highflowed turbos, if so will it be fine to just throw one right on?? Are they ball bearing?and a direct replacement item? Where can I find info on them guys.

[BAMR33]

Ebay is good for prices.

When I say tune, I mean up the boost a little to take advantage of the hi-flow. So you'll probably just need a bleed valve, only an extra $30. There's a DIY on installing SAFC's so you could also do that to save a little cash.

[BAMR33]

Slide hi-flows are journal bearing and require a mod to the oil feed line to fit, easily done at home with a bench drill and a welder. Just go to the trader section for more info on slide hi-flows.