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to greddy profec b or not to greddy profec b, that is the poll  

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joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Grand Master

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo

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Just wanted a few opinions on whether its worth going the ebc route on my car...

s1 33 with hks gtrs and all the relevant supporting mods

currently i have a turbosmart bleed value with the stock turbo, and it tends to creep. Will a greedy profec b totally eliminate this, and will it spool any quicker?

the gtrs is going on in a few weeks and i really wanna know if its worth the extra coin to ebc it.

i have searched but i was hoping to get some replies of people with the same turbo and ebc

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abu Grand Master

abu

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No point man.

Get a good bleed valve.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...p;#entry3342193

Check out the TURBOTECH one I was selling, and there is a link to a full write up on it.

Your best to get a good bleeder and are better off spending the money on something you really need.

abu Grand Master

abu

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There was a big discussion on this not long ago.

I remember GUILT TOY I think his name is was running about 20psi with a GT3540 on a TURBOTECH bleed valve with no creeps.

Run the boost controller off the cooler piping and off the turbo wastegate, bi-passing the standard solenoid.

Are you going after market ECU? If so get a boost controller kit for that particular ECU if you want to go EBC, otherwise don't bother.

My opinion though.

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Taxi33 Community Regular

Taxi33

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Crazy!

But then again if you don't want too run 20 psi all the time

You can just push a button and go too standard boost.

It would be difficult setting it back up too that exact setting.

That's just my opinion anyway!

Good luck :kiss:

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Grand Master

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo

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Yeah the car has a pfc, fuel pump,injectors, fmic, z32 afm blah blah. Its setup for the turbo in every way, i just want it to hold the prosper boost without creeping. I'm sick of planting my foot and watching the boost guage like a hawk. I'd rather be giving my attention to the tacho.

also i'd like to run 2 boost settings as i dont want 850000000 pounds all day every day. Hence the duel stage bleed value i have now

at the moment the bleed value is not running off the cooler pipe, pm its either change that or ebc it.

is there any difference in spool time?

abu Grand Master

abu

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Yeah the car has a pfc, fuel pump,injectors, fmic, z32 afm blah blah. Its setup for the turbo in every way, i just want it to hold the prosper boost without creeping. I'm sick of planting my foot and watching the boost guage like a hawk. I'd rather be giving my attention to the tacho.

also i'd like to run 2 boost settings as i dont want 850000000 pounds all day every day. Hence the duel stage bleed value i have now

at the moment the bleed value is not running off the cooler pipe, pm its either change that or ebc it.

is there any difference in spool time?

Guilt Toy is in the thread now, he will answer most of your questions I hope :kiss:

But I personally think a bleed valve can hold boost very well, depending on the type of bleed valve and how its intalled.

You can get different types of bleed valves which work in differnt ways.. some are good, other are shit. TURBOTECH has been proven by MANY to be good.

I will post up a intsallation link for installing a bleed valve into an R33.

If you want to run dual boost use a bleeder, or in my opinion if you REALLY want an EBC go to a PFC boost controller kit. That will do the job.

Guilt-Toy Grand Master

Guilt-Toy

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i was driving around all day long on 25psi 363rwkw for a few months and was doing around 1000 - 1500km's a week with the turbotech.

The only reason why i got a EBC (a old one that was given to me) was because the bolt and spring and ball bearing fell out on the road somehwere on the central coast when i was cruising around and i needed something to replace it.

Turbotech all the way. once you learn how to set them up they are great and deserve credit for what they are.

I have found they work better on big external wastegated turbo setups then they do with smaller turbo's :kiss:

Guilt-Toy Grand Master

Guilt-Toy

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hey mate

the turbotech brings up boot much quicker then every other bleed valve setup i have seen.

I used to have 2 turbotech's... one set to 25psi and the other set to 14psi. I would just pop the bonnet take the low boost setting valve off and replace it with the high one. Can be done very quickly even when setting at a set of lights i was able to change it with plenty of time to spare :kiss:

PS: was not racing

Yeah the car has a pfc, fuel pump,injectors, fmic, z32 afm blah blah. Its setup for the turbo in every way, i just want it to hold the prosper boost without creeping. I'm sick of planting my foot and watching the boost guage like a hawk. I'd rather be giving my attention to the tacho.

also i'd like to run 2 boost settings as i dont want 850000000 pounds all day every day. Hence the duel stage bleed value i have now

at the moment the bleed value is not running off the cooler pipe, pm its either change that or ebc it.

is there any difference in spool time?

abu Grand Master

abu

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Also consider that there is no need for you to turn the boost up, then down every time.

Run it on 1 boost setting as tuned and drive it off boost if need be!

If its tuned to 18psi, and you put it down to 7psi, it will run a bit shitty.

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swanny180 Proficient

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PS: was not racing

Hahaha pull up at set of lights, see some other car pull up next to you...

'Hey mate, wanna run'

'Yeah hold on a sec need to switch to high boost...'

*Hops out and swaps bleed valves*

:kiss:

Actually on topic, been very impressed with turbotechs in my experience with them. Cant really go wrong for the money either...

abu Grand Master

abu

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Hahaha pull up at set of lights, see some other car pull up next to you...

'Hey mate, wanna run'

'Yeah hold on a sec need to switch to high boost...'

*Hops out and swaps bleed valves*

:kiss:

Actually on topic, been very impressed with turbotechs in my experience with them. Cant really go wrong for the money either...

LOL

TURBOTECH - Very good value for money. I just sold my brand new one for $35!

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Grand Master

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo

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Yeah thats how i have it at the moment, its 13 pounds or off. I have a rocket switch in cabbin...

mainly i want to know if my turbosmart will hold after i put it in the ic piping, and whether an ebc will boost faster

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Grand Master

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo

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Thanks for that link abu, i have read it before but i only really skimmed over it.

well its ebc for me.

the car's gonna be on a dyno anyway so setup's not a problem.

thanks heaps for all the replies :kiss:

Taxi33 Community Regular

Taxi33

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Hahaha pull up at set of lights, see some other car pull up next to you...

'Hey mate, wanna run'

'Yeah hold on a sec need to switch to high boost...'

*Hops out and swaps bleed valves*

:kiss:

Actually on topic, been very impressed with turbotechs in my experience with them. Cant really go wrong for the money either...

Lol!

Haha, well good luck with your choice :D!

abu Grand Master

abu

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Thanks for that link abu, i have read it before but i only really skimmed over it.

well its ebc for me.

the car's gonna be on a dyno anyway so setup's not a problem.

thanks heaps for all the replies :D

Not a problem mate, good luck with it all!

Which EBC you going with? I recommend a BLITZ or a PFC EBC kit :)

BLITZ's ones are so simple to setup, will only take a few minutes. Very easy to configure and adjust as well. The solenoids are a really good design and hold boost strong.

BLITZ DSBC SPEC R are a dual solenoid unit, could get one for about $300 2nd hand.

Otherwise a 2nd hand GREDDY PROFEC B II, about $250 off the forums. Also very easy to setup/adjust.

Thats what I recommend anyways lol :kiss:

Thanks,

Abu

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Cubes Grand Master

Cubes

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Manual boost controllers work MUCH MUCH better with ext gates than int gate turbo's.

A mates ext gate setup with my turbo tech was perfect held what ever we pushed in; bolted the same turbo tech on to my IW setup and it wouldn't hold any more than 17.5psi.

BAMR33 Mentor

BAMR33

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Invest in an adjustable actuator with the spring tension to suit your application and use the turbo-tech for fine adjustments. This combination will hold boost better than an EBC and standard actuator. This is the setup I have anyway and it works well (I now use an avc-r with an adjustable actuator does the same thing)

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