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yippee, my ride is finally back on the road!. i went and picked her up yesterday from integra and anthony showed me the official report from GCG with photos and all. I'll post some pics up later when i get a chace to scan them. but after looking at the pics and discussing with anthony how this could have happened we came to the conclusion that i haven't had my turbo timer set for long enough. i was an aware that ball bearing turbos require longer to cool down than leaf turbos and 2 mins of turbo timer is just not enough after a hard drive. so after all that it turned out it was my fault for the turbo dieing, apparently i should be letting the turbo run down for at leaset 5 min, i only wish they could have at least given me that info when i had it high flowed in the first place. you would think it would be critical information that a customer should be given. but any way she's back on the road and I'm slowly working the turbo in on stock boost for a while. and very happy to finally have my car back :ninja::P

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Mines stock, so can someone tell me how long I should have my timer set for after a normal street drive (nice'n'easy one that is)? If I'm only putting around, I have only been giving it about a minute or two.

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There are many varying opinions on how long a car should be left on to let the turbo cool down.

Personally I never really leave it for any longer than 30 seconds unless it's been a hard drive and I've not done a 'cool down lap' on the way to my destination.

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Well if these turbo shops are claiming "oil contamination" as the cause of failure, i would personally send a sample of the oil to be tested. Funny how the standard turbo lasted 15yrs, with the oil passing through the same lines and i'd bet "oil contamination" wasn't the reason why it failed :worship:.

Once the oil has been tested and if the results show no metal rust contamination, then i would hit the company for replacement turbo, test and fitting costs.

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yippee, my ride is finally back on the road!. i went and picked her up yesterday from integra and anthony showed me the official report from GCG with photos and all. I'll post some pics up later when i get a chace to scan them. but after looking at the pics and discussing with anthony how this could have happened we came to the conclusion that i haven't had my turbo timer set for long enough. i was an aware that ball bearing turbos require longer to cool down than leaf turbos and 2 mins of turbo timer is just not enough after a hard drive. so after all that it turned out it was my fault for the turbo dieing, apparently i should be letting the turbo run down for at leaset 5 min, i only wish they could have at least given me that info when i had it high flowed in the first place. you would think it would be critical information that a customer should be given. but any way she's back on the road and I'm slowly working the turbo in on stock boost for a while. and very happy to finally have my car back :worship::(

Sorry to say that sounds like complete BULLSHIT.

Unless you are thrashing the car to the driveway, smoking the tyres till you park, 2 mins of turbo timer is MORE than enough. Hell if you drive normally for the last few minutes of your trip, then 30secs is enough. My turbo timer is set to 20sec, and unless i am competing in a motorsport event, i never increase the time and my HKS turbo has never had a problem.

The only other reason of failure, is that the turbo wasn't primed/lubed before starting the engine for the first time, thus causing the bearing to heat up and score, during the initial few seconds

Back to the turbo:

How long did it take till you delivered the turbo, to the time you received the report.

Not saying this has happened, but can you be sure those pics are from your turbo?

Not saying that the company involved is responsible, it could have been an installation issue (refer above about primming), but the turbo company has specified oil contamination, so get the oil tested.

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as far as i know around 2 to 2 and half minuets for the stock turbo should be fine, as it is not ball bearing

Actually they are Ball Bearing and BB need less time then Bush bearing to cool down and are more tolerant to quick heat and cool then bush.

Some correct me if I am wrong...

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yippee, my ride is finally back on the road!. i went and picked her up yesterday from integra and anthony showed me the official report from GCG with photos and all. I'll post some pics up later when i get a chace to scan them. but after looking at the pics and discussing with anthony how this could have happened we came to the conclusion that i haven't had my turbo timer set for long enough. i was an aware that ball bearing turbos require longer to cool down than leaf turbos and 2 mins of turbo timer is just not enough after a hard drive. so after all that it turned out it was my fault for the turbo dieing, apparently i should be letting the turbo run down for at leaset 5 min, i only wish they could have at least given me that info when i had it high flowed in the first place. you would think it would be critical information that a customer should be given. but any way she's back on the road and I'm slowly working the turbo in on stock boost for a while. and very happy to finally have my car back :P:)

wow smells like bullshit. looks like they're trying to give excuses now.

like Al says, i think it's only really mandatory to run your turbo timer for 2 minutes if you've been bashing the limiter all the way home. i'd be going back for complaints.

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drive normally for 5 minutes after a thrash, and with a bb water cooled turbo it's doubtful you'll need to cool down more anyway.

and if you haven't thrashed it then normal shut down without a cool down is fine ie manoeuvering into the garage after cruising down the street is enough.

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Sorry to say that sounds like complete BULLSHIT.

Unless you are thrashing the car to the driveway, smoking the tyres till you park, 2 mins of turbo timer is MORE than enough. Hell if you drive normally for the last few minutes of your trip, then 30secs is enough. My turbo timer is set to 20sec, and unless i am competing in a motorsport event, i never increase the time and my HKS turbo has never had a problem.

The only other reason of failure, is that the turbo wasn't primed/lubed before starting the engine for the first time, thus causing the bearing to heat up and score, during the initial few seconds

Back to the turbo:

How long did it take till you delivered the turbo, to the time you received the report.

Not saying this has happened, but can you be sure those pics are from your turbo?

Not saying that the company involved is responsible, it could have been an installation issue (refer above about primming), but the turbo company has specified oil contamination, so get the oil tested.

sorry i've been away for a while working on a feature film being filmed in goulbourne. now that you metion it one thing i found realy fishy is the photos taken of my turbo have a date stamp of early 2004.

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