Stack Dash

[phunky_monkey]

As do I mate.

I think the Stack and Defi would be the easiest to read on the fly, but all have warnings so it's not really an issue.

I'll check out what the Motec's are worth, but I dare say a lot, like everything else they make!

[Mr. Keets]

The Defi does look more road than track, but if your going to drive on the street thats not a bad thing. The Defi it has high beam low beam and indicators as opposed to the XML and the Stack so I suspect running one of those units without fitting indicators etc is a "defect". Installing the lights in the dash surround will require a bit of futsing about but not a big problem. The XML pista looks like the best value

[phunky_monkey]

Yeah, the Defi and MXL offer similar value I think, as both have full logging features, and every reading necessary.

To get the same sort of functionality in the Stack is a lot more expensive. It's another $850 to get a lap timing feature!

The car is still registered, so having indicators as well as high/low beam and a fuel readout is still very beneficial, but both can be adapted on the Stack and MXL units. The defi may look more road than track, but it has all the same features as the other units.

[Duncan]

Also don't forget to include the cost of the senders for those dashes too, they will be extra for sure.

I hear one of the qld guys is working on a local dash/logger, keep an eye out next year

[phunky_monkey]

Thanks Duncan.

The price I put up for the MXL includes all sensors I need ie oil pressure, fuel pressure, egt temp, oil temp, water temp, boost, lap timing beacon etc, as does the Defi.

The Stack needs fuel pressure added, as well as timing gear, and I'd run an independant boost guage. This is where the cost starts to rival the others, and doesn't seem like such good value anymore.

[Evocoop]

I know this is an old thread but was wondering if anyone has any new experiences in the last 12 months or so. I'm not a fan of bulk guages either and befor i put the engine back in the car I wanna get something in place now so the senders will be easier to fit while the engine's on the engine stand.

I'm running a D-jetro Power FC and want the usual info like water, exhust, oil temp, Oil, fuel presures and possibly boost.

The defi definatly looks the goods as i like that it retains the indercators and stuff cause the car is still registered. But the price with the exchange rate right now would maybe put it beyond what I can justifie.

[Tektrader69]

What a good time to rejig this thread. I have been agonizing over this for the last 3 weeks.

I have a special need as I want to interface the display with the M800 Motec i have via the CAN buss.

The cheapest Motec is the SDL which is $2500 odd and very no frills. There is a new MXL display called the Strada which is identical to the PISTA but a lot cheaper with no track mapping. Both these units interface through CAN interface or Serial to your ECU. There is another from the UK by a company called racesepc called a DASH 2. But the digits dont seem very clear on that one.

IMO all these units are TOO small. The Stack looks good to me but its a stupid price.

So far I have bought a Shift-I rev display and am looking for a 5 inch tach. But the stumbling block now is I need a 2 line serial or CAN interface 2 line data module like the Motec MDD But without the stupid $1500 price tag. I dont want to duplicate all the engine sensors with another stand alone solution when the ECU already has the data.

I think ergonomically the STACK unit is closest to what i need. But it is a ridiculous price.

Also, I have heard the data rate of the MXL systems is a bit slow to update the screen. But I havent seen one to confirm that yet.

If anyone knows of a 2 line data display that can interface via Serial or CAN please let me know As I am running out of options.

Edited December 21, 2008 by Tektrader69

[G_T_R]

If you want the simplicity that a BUS system like CAN offers you are going to have to use the Motec system complete, as I am unaware of too many aftermarket manufacturers using a data bus systems(Even though the auto industry has had it for well over ten years) , especially if you are worrying about budget!

[Tektrader69]

The Stack, MXL both have CAN bus that can interface to the Motec. But the Racespec offering only has a serial connection.

[Swiper the Fox]

you can get a Racepak item for around $1600 or the Aim for Around the 2K mark...leaning now towards Racepak as they are working in with Vi-PEC and they are a straight plug in.

[Roy]

I know a guy that sells tested 2nd hand Pi units that if you PM me your email i can forward his details. I am thinking about selling my AiM unit and getting the PI

[Swiper the Fox]

I know a guy that sells tested 2nd hand Pi units that if you PM me your email i can forward his details. I am thinking about selling my AiM unit and getting the PI

what model Aim?

[PSI Parts]

Interesting this thread was revived, I just started a Racepak IQ3 thread yesterday.

Link: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Iq...ak-t249590.html

[Roy]

IMO all these units are TOO small. The Stack looks good to me but its a stupid price.

Dont get too carried away with size. Review some manuals and transpose their size onto some cardboard then have a play and see where you plan to fit it. The dash fnction is handy but truth is it is mostly wank. You need the warning lights for the channels, you need the lap timer and the shift lights are handy. You dont get a chance to read or even look at the other guff while you are on track...provided the warning lights dont flash then you just keep your foot into it. The important thing is the data you log which you then look at when you are back in the pts/home

I run the AiM MyChron Gold 3 because it offered more features then the MXL at the time and it is easier to package. The Pi unit i am looking is the X-Sport which bolts to the steering wheel hub and mounts on the steering wheel. Powerful unit and easy to install and package into a raod car

[Tektrader69]

This Racepac UDX dash looks quite good. Shame it uses external sensors. Its quite big as well and only USD $700

Probably work out cheaper than quality guages.

http://www.racepak.com/Drag_Racing/UDX.php

I can alarm all the functions I want in the MOTEC and use the shift light indicator to display all alarms etc.

But I need a display I can use to page through to find out whats wrong.

Edited December 21, 2008 by Tektrader69

[DJRIFT]

i have installed the AIM or haltech dash into a few cars before.

it is a pretty orsome unit. it is pretty much stand alone, takes CAM interfaces, and can be calibrated to accept any types of sender units.

one that we did was in a race car and went along side a haltech e11v2. it only used about 3 inputs from the ecu and the rest were from VDO sender units. that means easy to buy in australia. at the time of install it was only using minimal functions but it can data log any thing from lap speed to suspension travel ect. (that one is the top end model)

another friend of mine got a AIM out of the USA a lot cheaper than they were available in aus. he put it in a crazy street 180sx. he got every thing on the car to work through the dash. stock speedo sender, fuel sender, oil, temp ect. he was extremely happy with it. i have driven it myself and it is easy to read.

they also sell a carbon fiber panel that is designed for the dash to sit into then you just cut the carbon sheet to fit your stock dash cluster.

if i didnt like the look of 10 60mm gauges across my dash id defiantly buy the AIM dash

[PSI Parts]

The UDX is now outdated, Racepak are really trying to push the IQ3, Link:http://www.racepak.com/Road_Racing/IQ3.php

It not only has the ability to plug directly into Haltech E11 ECUs, but able to add sensors by either buying a 4port USM (around $200) in which you buy the sensor cable (about $4/m) and let the USM do the conversion, or you buy the plug 'n play sensor harness (around $200 I believe) that just daisy chains together onto the back of the dash.

[Roy]

That Racepak unit is identical to the Autronic dash

[Sinful]

I've been looking into these recently and will be buying one in the new year..

I was a bit stunned to see the Haltech Street,Track & Pro Dash's and Aim MXL range are identical! only difference is price and the badge on the dash LOL

Plus was glad to see that you can run any ecu with either dash!

Does anyone find the display hard to see at times?

I like the Haltech Track dash ...I was going to go for the Aim Mychron 3 XG Log. but I have been put off the MYchon version as most said was very small unit..

[PSI Parts]

They aren't the same, the different dashes have different features. See: http://www.aimsports.com/products/mxl-chooser.html