Trozzle Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Just out of interest, how far over do you bend for barbell rows? Go for this imo, I love them: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Boi Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 jack3d pre-workout - though easing up on this lately it doesn't seem to have anywhere near the same effect it did the first/second months of usage. and i hate the taste. I remember my first time I tried Jack3d, was scratching at my skin like a crack addict because my skin was tingling and got the jitters lol. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-SPEC Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 lol yeah used to get me hypo as. went from 1 hour slow sessions to 3 hours heavy lifting with enough energy in the tank to go for a 4th... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR_JOEY Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Just out of interest, how far over do you bend for barbell rows? Go for this imo, I love them: Pretty much try to get parallel with the floor, I see people doing them at 45 all the time and they are sorta missing the point lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fricktion Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 jack3d pre-workout - though easing up on this lately it doesn't seem to have anywhere near the same effect it did the first/second months of usage. and i hate the taste. I find if i take a break from it for a couple of weeks it is much more powerful rather than taking it before every workout. Definitely on the hunt for a new pre-workout though and have heard good things about 1MR, anyone have any feedback on it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Pretty much try to get parallel with the floor, I see people doing them at 45 all the time and they are sorta missing the point lol Spot on Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Just out of interest, how far over do you bend for barbell rows? Go for this imo, I love them: lol @ 25 seconds of ads for a 1:43 video. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yep, stupid eastern European crap Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickR33 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 they're intended to be done parallel to the floor but that doesn't mean you can't vary it from time to time and do it at a 45° angle... it just hits higher up your back instead of the lats etc... just like changing from a pronated grip to supinated will vary it as well best when held at the top a little, really squeezing your shoulder blades together Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yer anymore than 45 and you're turning it into something of an upright row lol. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6132929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Boi Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I find if i take a break from it for a couple of weeks it is much more powerful rather than taking it before every workout. Definitely on the hunt for a new pre-workout though and have heard good things about 1MR, anyone have any feedback on it? I use 1MR from time to time and it works pretty good for me. Taste good, doesn't have 1,3 Dimeth like Jack3d which I've read causes some bad side effects. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR_JOEY Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) Righto been doin a fair bit of thinking and reading and I've decided to change up the routine a bit OLD ROUTINE Monday Chest/tris Tuesday Legs/abs Wednesday Upper back/bis Thursday Shoulders/abs Friday Deadlift session NEW ROUTINE Monday Chest/tris Tuesday Legs/shoulders Wednesday Upper back/bis Then repeat though on the second cycle I'll do a deadlift session.. So I'll be doing each muscle group twice a week though the amont of time spent on each muscle group in each session has been reduced Essentially Shorter sessions more often stop needless over training and allow 3-4 days rest before getting back into it as appose to 5-6 I will still be doing the major exercises in both sessions though I'll will vary it so it's different ie Chest Day 1 barbell presses Day 2 dumbbell presses Back Day 1 bentover barbell rows Day 2 bent over t bar rows I've also come to the conclusion that while Im tryin to bulk up my abs are goin to show up much anyway do I've cut the ab shit away What do u guys reckon? Appreciate input Cheers Righto scrap this, after some further research I'll be changing the routine again Main changes will be: Max 3 days of straight training then have a rest day Changing to chest/bis and upperback/tris Splitimg the routine so a secondary muscle that has been used in a work out gets at least 48 rest before being hit as a primary ie 48hours between a chest and shoulder session Also will be goin by feel for when I start the training cycle again as appose to 1 cycle each week Edited November 30, 2011 by GTR_JOEY Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Ever considered a two day split repeated in the week? It's a lot of exercises to fit into two days, but three days off gives you some nice rest or cardio days. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I use 1MR from time to time and it works pretty good for me. Taste good, doesn't have 1,3 Dimeth like Jack3d which I've read causes some bad side effects. It used to have it. I suppose without it, it's nothing more than a shitload of caffeine Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR_JOEY Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Ever considered a two day split repeated in the week? It's a lot of exercises to fit into two days, but three days off gives you some nice rest or cardio days. I have but my sessions would go for far too long and I just don't think I could have that many days off a week away from the gym... Been doing a fair bit of reading and according to more then a couple of articles the best way for training to build bulk and muscle is to train once a week on each muscle group and really give them a smashing as appose to twice a week with less sets. They also say that twice a week with less sets it's better for beginners while once a week with more sets is for more experienced body builders They have their theories for saying this I can find the articles if anyone wants to read them Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I agree with them that hitting each group once a week properly (as in, hard and heavy) is better than doing it twice a week with less sets. Without even seeing the theories behind it, I'd have my own about the muscles being broken down better by the former. Number of sets does need to be defined though, because, for example, I do the two day split with a repeat later in the week, however, each exercise I do has about 6 sets to it and I certainly don't leave feeling like I could have done a lot more. It's sort of that...once a week thing...but repeated? Could be considered overtraining, but I heal pretty quickly and rarely feel like the workouts interfere with each other. I mean there's nothing I could do at the gym, short of causing myself a joint injury lol, that would require a week before I could safely work the muscle group again. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FIGJAM- Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 GTR have you looked into the theory behind time under tension? apparently 70second sets is meant to be the bomb for building mass.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsilliez Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 What do u guys reckon of universal animal stak? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR_JOEY Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Na haven't heard of under tension mate....? I generally aim for 1 and a half minutes between sets, though I'm pretty social at the gym so doesn't always happen like that lol In reguards to amont of sets for each muscle group, the general belief for once a week would be around 16 sets For twice a week approx 8 sets I agree that once a week is plenty of time to rest a muscle group after a hard session 4-5 days would be optimum in my opinion Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I do the same workout on Thursday as I do on Monday, and Friday as I do on Tuesday. Even though it's a split routine, there's a small amount of crossover with muscle groups so Wednesday is the day of no gym = a thorough rest day. The only time I'll feel any sort of soreness or interference is if I miss a couple of days at the gym and then the next workout will take a little longer to recover from. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/107/#findComment-6133360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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