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especially as I've seen programs that get very specific, 77% 83% or whatever

What the hell kind of programs would tell you to work at 77% or 83% of your 1RM.. this is a great example of powerlifting/bodybuilding bro-science at it's finest. Your body isn't going to adapt to an exact percentage. You might as well work off of 80% because that extra 3% either way won't make a noticeable difference in strength or size gains.

For me, crafting the body into something most desirable for the opposite sex, is where it's at ;)

hahaha I guess I'm different due to being married... but for me it's about being allowed to keep my man card... I'm a graphic designer which apparently means I have to weigh 60kg, wear thick rimmed glasses, girls jeans and be into bicycles... fck that, after spending all day discussing the differences between 2 almost identical fonts and drinking macchiatos I like to go to the gym and do badass shit... I'm no PL but I like to lift heavy... nothing better than chucking serious weight on an Oly bar, sitting it on the ground then lifting it above your head

I was doing dips yesterday with a couple of the 24kg kettlebells hanging off a belt looking like a couple of giant black balls swinging between my legs... I felt pretty baws for a few minutes lol

its funny when I meet someone for the first time they pretty much always assume I'm a tradie.... until I show them my girly hands lol

On lean gains he reckons for an intermediate lifter

1.6 x bw - squat

1.2 x bw - bench

2 x bw - deadlift

This is a good starting point, a minimum if your serious

just gotta sort out my squats :S... stupid weak legs

i like to read the Scivation Books stuff. Currently working on their Tri Phase routine (slightly modified but I will more then likely go back to the original).

They have books on just about everything that is training.

http://www.scivationbooks.com/

I like to read this site called

www.itsnotrocketscience.com

Listen to your body, train what works best for you

This lol. Too many people looking for the easiest/fastest way to gain the most amount of muscle in as little time as possible, which kind of works contrary to what is actually required at the gym - a f**kload of effort to get what you want.

its not so much looking for the fastest way to achieve results, well not for me anyway. I learnt years ago there is no fast way.

I read this stuff because I find it remotely interesting. I also dont think that I am perfect so I like to see and hear other people's opinion on a range of subjects. There are always better ways of doing things, its just a matter of hearing them out and deciding if you agree or not.

My 2cents.

its not so much looking for the fastest way to achieve results, well not for me anyway. I learnt years ago there is no fast way.

I read this stuff because I find it remotely interesting. I also dont think that I am perfect so I like to see and hear other people's opinion on a range of subjects. There are always better ways of doing things, its just a matter of hearing them out and deciding if you agree or not.

My 2cents.

Without artificial assistance you mean Mitch? Seem to see a whole bunch of huge teenage blokes in the gyms these days, partly they're starting at an age where their T is at a peak, but mostly a whole lot of them would be on the gear.

Interesting article in the SMH not long ago; not really 'news' , but interesting nonetheless - the 'steroid vacation' to Thailand: http://www.smh.com.a...0526-1zblt.html

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