Gym And Supplement Discussion

[France]

Yeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

They've changed over time... Playing to their characters too much nowadays, and average advice...

[jangles]

Trozzle,

If you head over to IIFYM.COM it has a TDEE calculator that makes it easy to work out cals.

Yours would be around 200P 370C 90F at a guess on training days.

[Trozzle]

Trozzle,

If you head over to IIFYM.COM it has a TDEE calculator that makes it easy to work out cals.

Yours would be around 200P 370C 90F at a guess on training days.

But for what goal? Maintenance? Gaining?

[Dani Boi]

Maintenance

[jangles]

That'll be maintenance, but that's why you head over and punch in your details!

Usually lean meats are around:

100g = 30gP

Cup of rice ~50g C

350g potato ~ 50gC

That's the basis I use anyway.

I don't count condiments usually

Edited November 18, 2012 by jangles

[Trozzle]

I'm only just realising how little carbohydrates are in things like steamed veggies lol...no wonder I'm at such a shortage even though I'm eating plenty f**k this nutrition shit

[Birds]

I'm only just realising how little carbohydrates are in things like steamed veggies lol...no wonder I'm at such a shortage even though I'm eating plenty f**k this nutrition shit

Eat some pasta you skinny bastard.

[jangles]

I'm only just realising how little carbohydrates are in things like steamed veggies lol...no wonder I'm at such a shortage even though I'm eating plenty f**k this nutrition shit

Yeah it's easy as to hit protein, carbs are killer.

really only peas, corn and carrots in the normal vege types. Depends how many of course.

Takes a LOT!

Cereal is easy to eat. Takes a lot to get the grams up still though. Find suitable large bowl, keep filling until target carbs met.

[Trozzle]

Eat some pasta you skinny bastard.

lol fark alright easy on!

Yeah it's easy as to hit protein, carbs are killer.

really only peas, corn and carrots in the normal vege types. Depends how many of course.

Takes a LOT!

Cereal is easy to eat. Takes a lot to get the grams up still though. Find suitable large bowl, keep filling until target carbs met.

Yeah cereals are good, it's just annoying to see how loaded with sugar even the apparently "healthy" ones are. Got myself a shitload of muesli though, plenty of fruit all through it n shit. Gonna snack the hell out of that at work.

[Mitcho_7]

Eat a shit tonne of bread/bagels, they have few carbs in them...

Edited November 18, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[Mitcho_7]

Also, that fruit muesli will probably have a decent amount of sugar in it

[Birds]

Eat a shit tonne of bread/bagels, they have few carbs in them...

This as well.

Troy, if you want a good all rounder...try toasted tuna sandwiches/melts. Carbs + protein galore.

[Trozzle]

Also, that fruit muesli will probably have a decent amount of sugar in it

haha yeah it does, though less than the stupid sultana bran I'd usually eat if I had cereals. I don't eat fruit through the rest of the day like I see some people doing excessively, so no sugar intake there for me. Nor do I have sugar in my coffee(s).

[Husky33]

woah, you guys are getting too far into this 'in my personal opinion', or more so, over complicating it.

I just put food into 3 groups.

Good food, okay food, bad food.

Good food - fruit(eat it all day), steak, chicken, veggies, eggs etc

Okay food - bread, rice pasta, weetbix, yoghurt etc

Bad food - ice-cream, pizza, maccas, chips etc etc

So eat as much good food as you want when you want. Eat the okay food when you want, just depends on goals and most importantly body type.

Bad foods, eat at own risk. With my body type i eat this shit everyday, but i know i can, so i don't care.

None of us are competing bodybuilders, no need to overcomplicate things.

Remember this is my opinion

[jangles]

woah, you guys are getting too far into this 'in my personal opinion', or more so, over complicating it.

I just put food into 3 groups.

Good food, okay food, bad food.

Good food - fruit(eat it all day), steak, chicken, veggies, eggs etc

Okay food - bread, rice pasta, weetbix, yoghurt etc

Bad food - ice-cream, pizza, maccas, chips etc etc

So eat as much good food as you want when you want. Eat the okay food when you want, just depends on goals and most importantly body type.

Bad foods, eat at own risk. With my body type i eat this shit everyday, but i know i can, so i don't care.

None of us are competing bodybuilders, no need to overcomplicate things.

Remember this is my opinion

IMO I think that's what complicates it.

A carb is a carb. Be it grains or sugar. Obviously eating sugar all the time won't be the best way but if you eat 1000 cals from your good food category or 1000 cals from your bad food category it's still 1000 cals.

Fruit is just a ball of sugar.

Hit your macro targets and it won't matter where they come from, unless you're trying to compete.

[Trozzle]

Apart from the fact I'm obviously not hitting my carb macro target and way overshooting my protein target, this is exactly what I'm getting at - you guys have overcomplicated something that's obviously working for me anyway

[jangles]

Apart from the fact I'm obviously not hitting my carb macro target and way overshooting my protein target, this is exactly what I'm getting at - you guys have overcomplicated something that's obviously working for me anyway

It's not complicated, it's the basics.

that little carbs you must nearly have bunny ears by now haha.

Imagine if youd hit them earlier, you could be leaner, bigger, stronger quicker.

saved money

Macros are easy, knowing them allows you to eat anything you want really.

I hadnt been to the gym in 3 days and had KFC and maccas. But I'm still in a deficit leading up to my holidays

Edited November 19, 2012 by jangles

[Dani Boi]

KFC? Goodnight sweet toilet.

[Trozzle]

It's not complicated, it's the basics.

that little carbs you must nearly have bunny ears by now haha.

Imagine if youd hit them earlier, you could be leaner, bigger, stronger quicker.

saved money

Macros are easy, knowing them allows you to eat anything you want really.

I hadnt been to the gym in 3 days and had KFC and maccas. But I'm still in a deficit leading up to my holidays

You've been following IIFYM a little too literally I think...Thanks for the advice, but I'll stick with what I have been doing and am now doing, even if I AM doing it wrong.

[jangles]

You've been following IIFYM a little too literally I think...Thanks for the advice, but I'll stick with what I have been doing and am now doing, even if I AM doing it wrong.

I don't follow iifym, just used it's calculators.

I'm not sure how you can do something too literally though. Cals in vs cals out.

it's only my take on things and suggestions. Everyone has their own ways. There's no right or wrong way about it.

Edited November 19, 2012 by jangles