Gym And Supplement Discussion

[No Crust Racing]

The problem is I don't know what is exactly wrong so am trying different things based on the opinion of therapists.

If the answer is squat more then I must be squatting too much for my core strength at the moment which seems odd as my legs want to squat plenty more.

So I either lower the weights or work on some specific exercises to target a supposed weakness and if nothing else prove to therapists that my core is fine (if it is).

Anyone had good experience with Chiro's?

[Birds]

Woodchops are good for three dimensional core strength and people shooting for aesthetics. The former being useful for preventing injuries in other exercises due to imbalance or improper technique, and sports that require quick turning of the upper body (boxing for example). Being a side to side movement, they engage some muscles that are seldom worked hard during linear up and down movements. They will work your abdominal wall, your obliques, your pectorals, your shoulders, your lower back and even your legs. Be wary of going heavy if you have lower back or shoulder problems though - it's not exactly a natural movement of the body.

3 months of woodchops and a low enough BF% =

You really want to be doing squats and deads a lot though...there's no substitute for the core strength these exercises give you.

[TTT]

yeah. Chiros have their place even though physios don't think so.

it's an odd feeling when they adjust you and kind of scary.. but it does help. It's pretty temporary but after multiple visits, the adjustments they make seem smaller so it does help.

My spine is a little crooked, and my hips slightly tilted (right leg is 6mm shorter than left).

The chiro I went to was quite good. he was all about adjust, 10 minute walk, then ice it for 10 minutes 3 times a day and no load on it.. This was after my initial injury.

first week of the injury I saw him 3 times, 2nd - 4th week I saw him twice each week, 5th and 6th week I had single visits.

he'd find the spot, move you back, forward, side to side while feeling the spot to see if it moves properly or binds, and adjust (which is crack basically, beit via a twist or push), then walk, then ice.

6 weeks later I started doing squats and deads again as he suggested.

went back 2 times about 6 months later for adjustments and that was it.

There are different type of chiro practice too.. can't say what is better.

maybe research that if you want.

[No Crust Racing]

That type of toothpaste is shit Birds, you have to hack it open to get the last quarter.

Yeah fair enough I realise doing those compound lifts is a winner and it IS my desire to do them, I just want to try and lock down what my back issue is before I continue adding weight to avoid further issues.

It's either caused by my leg issues OR was caused by poor form/weakness when I started doing the lifts, as we all know I was dodging them.

Problem is I started regular walking and these compounds lifts around the same time (I think) so hard to isolate.

At the very least it doesn't specifically hurt when I do those movements, only after. Also, despite having not gym'd since Friday it hasn't improved but I have still been walking twice daily (now with basic insoles and my arches strapped up).

Aids.

[Birds]

Try starting fresh with light weight and doing squats ass to ground. I don't know anyone who does ATG with bad form; it doesn't really allow for it.

[No Crust Racing]

I can't get that low even with a wide stance and well above 45 degree angle on my foot position.

The scar tissue on my ankle doesn't allow it. I can get probs 65-75% of the way there if I try and thats pretty uncomfortable. Still below parallel though.

My vid shows a semi comfortable depth for me, but doesn't show what I consider improved setup and tension in my core before I start the motion.

[Birds]

Forgot about your ankle.

Don't use wide stance to go ATG, Olympic/narrow is easier.

[No Crust Racing]

What do you mean forget about it? It's not a case of ouch that hurts a little, it's a case of the joint jams up when trying to go that low.

[Trozzle]

What do you mean forget about it? It's not a case of ouch that hurts a little, it's a case of the joint jams up when trying to go that low.

FORGOT, not FORGET. lol.

[No Crust Racing]

Ahh shit my bad, sorry just trying to whiz through a few things before heading back to the hospital to collect the girls.

[Birds]

lol "the girls", such a new dad!

[God_speed]

That type of toothpaste is shit Birds, you have to hack it open to get the last quarter.

Yeah fair enough I realise doing those compound lifts is a winner and it IS my desire to do them, I just want to try and lock down what my back issue is before I continue adding weight to avoid further issues.

It's either caused by my leg issues OR was caused by poor form/weakness when I started doing the lifts, as we all know I was dodging them.

Problem is I started regular walking and these compounds lifts around the same time (I think) so hard to isolate.

At the very least it doesn't specifically hurt when I do those movements, only after. Also, despite having not gym'd since Friday it hasn't improved but I have still been walking twice daily (now with basic insoles and my arches strapped up).

Aids.

I was thinking something similar , but thought maybe it was moisturiser...

Hack squatting or leg press might put less strain on your ankles?

Went to a chiro for a while, he was a good one as well (did xrays at the start, talked me through analysis on the comp screen etc) but after a while got the feeling that the adjustments were not doing that much and seemed like there was a gameplan geared to get me going back there until the end of time, i.e. no defined end point.

[TTT]

birds you noob, narrow stance, high bar, deep squat requires MORE ankle flexion/knees forward movement.

imagine a steel "L" bracket screwed in to your foot/ankle, how do you propose he bends it further?

[Birds]

I told you I forgot about his ankle...I didn't know he had a letter of the alphabet inserted into it.

[TTT]

you forgot but still suggested he does ATG

[Dani Boi]

Stalling hard on overhead press, 5th attempt last night with a fail.

[Birds]

you forgot but still suggested he does ATG

I didn't know about the big L. And I was saying that Olympic stance is easier to get your ass to the ground, which it is.

[TTT]

he doesn't have anything screwed in.. it's scar tissue.

I was trying to make a point so you'd get why he doesn't bend at the ankle.. ..... .. ...

where's my foam roller!

[No Crust Racing]

Yeah just scare tissue, the bracket and screws are just on the Fib.

I'll have a read about hack squats, no idea what they are.

[TTT]

lol scare tissue