Performance Predictions?

[gt-ahhh!]

hey all, just wondering what your predictions are for my new donk. should be rolling out hopefully tomorrow or monday at worst. oh the suspense after sitting in the driveway for 4 months!

R33 GTS25t

-pod

-3in exhaust (possibly dump as well, output seems pretty good)

177rwkw

now with:

-replacement engine

-kkr430 turbo

-fmic

-forward facing plenum

-440cc injectors

-fuel pump

-bov

im thinking ill go for 13-14 psi boost. and am hoping for at least 200rwkw, optimistically 210. what do you think?

also, 1/4 mile on 255 bridgestones? im thinking 13.3? am i having a wank dreaming of 13.0?

haha appreciate any input. bear in mind this is the 2nd engine ive had to replace in 9 months so funds for bigger mods have been hard to come by.

i am looking forward to pulling apart my wrecked motor, some may remember it getting a compression test of 0psi in one of the cylinders. so i might post some pics when i get stuck into that. also, im hoping the head is fine so there might be a few bits for sale soon.

thanks guys!

[rsx84]

i have read that on an r33 the KKR480 was good for 270RWKW at 18psi, i 'd say the 200-210 make your thinking would be about right.. if not slightly higher..

are you running some sort of piggy back ECU or full aftermarket??

[Granthem]

your stock management will be the weak link i think. power FC it

[rev210]

Well a bonnet down 177rwkw is a high 12 over the 1/4 if you have something remotely wide tyre wise on the rear and you have by a long way. I'd say if that pod filter has no cold air partition and feed the 177 is more like 150 realistically on the road.

You have aftermarket engine management right?

If drag racing is something you want to have a go at then things like some pineapples for the rear diff cradle wouldn't hurt and hopefully you have an upgraded clutch in there too.

A 12 should be so easy it isn't funny if you are making a genuine 210rwkw bonnet down.

[gt-ahhh!]

i have read that on an r33 the KKR480 was good for 270RWKW at 18psi, i 'd say the 200-210 make your thinking would be about right.. if not slightly higher..

are you running some sort of piggy back ECU or full aftermarket??

thats alright! but mines a 430, not a 480

well, no im strapped for cash, so im remapping the stocko ecu. which is not ideal i realise, but i will get a pfc by my 21st in july hopefully.

[gt-ahhh!]

I'd say if that pod filter has no cold air partition and feed the 177 is more like 150 realistically on the road.

A 12 should be so easy it isn't funny if you are making a genuine 210rwkw bonnet down.

wha? the pod doesnt have a box or anything, though if you think its wasting that much power i might have to make something up! surely its not worth 25kw though?

yeh as i said above, remapping stocko ecu because i havent got the cash atm. but i will go pfc for sure.

im not really that into the drags, but i would like to know my times just so i can ram them up my commo-loving mates. not sure how long the clutch will last though but my tyres seem to develop a lot of traction certainly compared to the ones i had previously (theyd bloody want to for $425 each)

12s!! sweet as!

[RBwhatever]

Shouldn't a 430 be good for 230ish rwkw?

Edited January 18, 2008 by KeyMaker

[rev210]

wha? the pod doesnt have a box or anything, though if you think its wasting that much power i might have to make something up! surely its not worth 25kw though?

yeh as i said above, remapping stocko ecu because i havent got the cash atm. but i will go pfc for sure.

im not really that into the drags, but i would like to know my times just so i can ram them up my commo-loving mates. not sure how long the clutch will last though but my tyres seem to develop a lot of traction certainly compared to the ones i had previously (theyd bloody want to for $425 each)

12s!! sweet as!

Yep it's worth a fair whack alright. The engine bay air is often 70+deg C around town on a hot day it's hotter again, it's not a good thing really.

If you are getting a full remap (fuel and ignition) then thats fine although I thought the R33 remaps were as pricey as a powerFC?

It's 12's when you actually do it on the strip. Not a lot of point talking about how fast your car is going to be but, rather just go and see.

[gt-ahhh!]

Yep it's worth a fair whack alright. The engine bay air is often 70+deg C around town on a hot day it's hotter again, it's not a good thing really.

If you are getting a full remap (fuel and ignition) then thats fine although I thought the R33 remaps were as pricey as a powerFC?

wow. thats some hot air. so what do you have to do? shield the pod from the engine bay, with plastic or something? heat wrap? or redirect it somehow so its drawing cooler air?

i have been told they charge hourly rate to do ecu's, which should equate to maybe $3-400 at worst. i dont see how it could cost more than that! it would be a waste of time if it did.

[rsx84]

thats alright! but mines a 430, not a 480

well, no im strapped for cash, so im remapping the stocko ecu. which is not ideal i realise, but i will get a pfc by my 21st in july hopefully.

know that, that why i said around the 200 -210rwkw mark, i didn't think there was anyone re-mapping the r33 ECU? and charging by the hour sounds more like dyno time then re-mapping the ECU?

may be an SAFC / SAFC 2 could be a good cheaper option than the re-map? you should be able to get a good second hand one for $200-250 then at a good tuner maybe and hours tune.. $100-150... you can also re-sale the safc once you get the PFC hehehe..

[charlie25T]

Good luck finding a pfc.................

There impossible to fine

well brand new i mean...............And you dont wanna get them second hand....

Btw with your turbo you will have shit load of lag

[Dragonforce]

Errr...

PFCs are not impossible to find brand new..

Keep ur eyes out for one man, it will serve you well.

[RBwhatever]

Good luck finding a pfc.................

There impossible to fine

well brand new i mean...............And you dont wanna get them second hand....

Btw with your turbo you will have shit load of lag

whats wrong with second hand?

[WARLORD]

whats wrong with second hand?

not a thing ive got one and had it for three years.

[charlie25T]

Warlord You got luck bro..................

You never know what is wrong with the unit when it is second hand .....

there has been alot of story of people buying dud

I think it is time you look at others than the Pfc

dont get me wrong the PFC is the best ................... But now there is better

[RBwhatever]

I bought mine second hand, in fact by the time i got it, it is probably third or even forth hand. It works a treat too.

Edited January 18, 2008 by KeyMaker

[Adriano]

Ive tuned and fitted heaps of PFC's, and lots of them second hand, without problems. See Dr.Drift for a remap, but it wont be $3-400, although the end result is pretty much as good as the PFC(in many ways better)

[r33cruiser]

get some management mate.

grab a pfc, emu, microtech etc....and it will be a WEAPON!!

[rev210]

Warlord You got luck bro..................

You never know what is wrong with the unit when it is second hand .....

there has been alot of story of people buying dud

I think it is time you look at others than the Pfc

dont get me wrong the PFC is the best ................... But now there is better

I've never heard of a 'dud' power FC purchase to date, not that it may not happen, just seems to be by far the exception ot the rule.

Searching this forum you struggle to find someone complaining of a dud purchase....

[charlie25T]

I've never heard of a 'dud' power FC purchase to date, not that it may not happen, just seems to be by far the exception ot the rule.

Searching this forum you struggle to find someone complaining of a dud purchase....

rev m8...............................

I bought a brand new PFC in novemeber and it was a dud.....Luckly i bought it from a dealer so there for i go my money back. there has been heaps of story of pfc being duds and yeah for tuners.........................these are computers the bound to be faulty

Anyway i hav now in my car an EMS 8860................. it is rated highly and my car is done at bel garage and the masters at tuning....

Pfc are still the best comps around but the becoming rare.