Swapping Sumps

[dano4127]

Just after a definitive answer if it is possible to do a sump change with the motor still in the car?

Some guidance in this matter greatly appreciated

At this stage I think I will get my workshop to do it, any ideas on approx workshop hrs?

[Victory]

Yes it can be done and yes it does require special tools.

You need an engine brase that sits on the front guards and supports the engine. Then you remove the steering and the front cross member and then you can remove the sump. This is probably the best part of a days job so you can expect it to not be cheap.

[bubba]

^^ Exactly that, we even use the brace when taking the gearbox out of my car, dropping the subframe by an inch makes helps a lot

[NA_Goodness]

Yeh, its not easy. We had to install and remove a sump from a 93 Corola 3 times due to leaks. Took 2 days. Wouldn't do it without a hoist though.

[Bliksem]

I would say its not 100% necessary to use an engine brace. I've done it by removing the sway bar loosening the engine mounts and jacking the motor up 50mm or so... This was done on a hoist, and I wouldnt even attempt it without one.

[Simon-S14]

dont need to remove the X member either. or an engine brace. Do this on a hoist tho, We used a port a power kit to lift the motor up by undoing the engine mount bolts, then a 3/8 socket kit with flexi drive and wobble bars to get to all the sump bolts... once sump is undon use a hammer and chisel to break the seal, you'll need a ratchet spanner and patience to undo the oil pick up bolts. once thats done drop the sway bar and then slide the sump out.

takes a few hours and some sware words

[dano4127]

so far got the sump undone and cracked the seal but ended up falling asleep under the car @ around 3am looks as though it will come out fairly easily once the sway bar is loosened off

Thanks for the advice guys, sucks doing it without a hoist but it can be done!