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I'm getting ready to go look at a GTS-T R32 Type M. I'm not sure if the motor is worth it, cause it seems you have to put a lot of money into the engine to make some good numbers. Plus im going to have to take a big loan and have payments, so I wouldn't be able to do anything major soon.

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Well... any motor that you want to make more power - will cost money.

Whats the budget? If you cant afford to EASILY make repayments - you shouldn't be purchasing a skyline.

I don't understand what your getting at here really.

R32's are lighter and cheaper than R33's, hence RB20. R33's are more, hence heavier and RB25 come with them.

RB20/R32 isn't a bad car for what it is, but its aging, 15+ years now

Well... any motor that you want to make more power - will cost money.

Whats the budget? If you cant afford to EASILY make repayments - you shouldn't be purchasing a skyline.

I don't understand what your getting at here really.

R32's are lighter and cheaper than R33's, hence RB20. R33's are more, hence heavier and RB25 come with them.

RB20/R32 isn't a bad car for what it is, but its aging, 15+ years now

Isnt it only about 50odd kg?

Stick with your Turbo Civic for now and keep saving. If your after speed, then the Civic will whoop the Skyline hands down.

Sae up, get a Skyline, model preffered, then spend some money on it. Could even buy a nana spec R32 and RB25 it? Im still relatively new so i dont know if thats an easy/cheap/worth it option. :down:

I haven't built my engine or anything thou. I'm only running bout 8psi. I raced one of my buddies wrx's and he is close to 280hp, and I stayed right with him. Idk I was wondering if I should wait for a skylline with the twin turbo. Insurance thou?

i rekon u would be disappointed with the r32 rb20. Id either keep saving for the gtr or get the r33 rb25 as its easier to get power out of than the rb20, unless ofcourse u like the look of the r32 like me

Isnt it only about 50odd kg?

Stick with your Turbo Civic for now and keep saving. If your after speed, then the Civic will whoop the Skyline hands down.

Sae up, get a Skyline, model preffered, then spend some money on it. Could even buy a nana spec R32 and RB25 it? Im still relatively new so i dont know if thats an easy/cheap/worth it option. :laugh:

Weight is R32 1260/80 (earlier 32's/later 32's) vs R33 1400+ so its around the 120 mark or a tad more. Dunno why everyone gets different specs but those are the ones from factory.

The civic is a light car, with an alrite motor, however as you say, an R32 with an RB25 in it would have a truckload more torque available at lower rpm than all honda engines (stock for stock). Even a 20 probably has more torque at lower RPM than most honda engines stock for stock. Id rather an R32 RB20DET than a honda but thats just my preferance...Horses for courses

Weight is R32 1260/80 (earlier 32's/later 32's) vs R33 1400+ so its around the 120 mark or a tad more. Dunno why everyone gets different specs but those are the ones from factory.

Proof please..

show me the nissan factory information of the above weights?

I've always known it to be:

R32 early = 1290kg

R32 late = 1320kg

R33 gtst = 1370kg

According to Carizma

Curb weight for R32: 1480kg

http://carizma.com.au/Pages/Details%20-%20...e%20-%20R32.htm

Curb weight for R33: 1530kg

http://carizma.com.au/Pages/Details%20-%20...e%20-%20R33.htm

Doesn't sound right to me..

According to Autospeed R32: http://autospeed.com/cms/A_0853/article.html?popularArticle

This backs up what GTST said

The GTS-t is notably lighter than its AWD counterparts (1320kg versus up to 1480kg).

According to Autospeed R33: http://autospeed.com/cms/A_1105/article.html?popularArticle

On the road, the R33 GTS25T coupe's 1360kg kerb mass is apparent.

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