Hsv Unveil New 7.0l Engine W427

[GTR-32U]

You know, I REALLY dont think this is aimed at the GTR/911 turbo buying public. That and its got 4 doors and rwd, so its not even remotely on the same platform. So that argment is gone.

And $125k for a limited run of 200 cars, given the insane amounts people are paying for all the old stuff these days, its almost justifiable.

Also 200 cars, I REALLY dont think thats going to kill whats left of all the whales in the world. A 2CV would do more damage to the planet than all of those 200 cars together. You cant really expect them to be all daily drivers. Some probably wont see anymore than 100kms put on them in the next 10 years!

Fools.

If its only 200 cars then thats no problem really...However remember that the 6 litre was also only available in HSV spec...and look now its standard fitment.How long will it be till the 7litre is standard fitment ? Just what we need ...18 yr old P plater driving around in a car with the power of a V8 Supercar almost...Not as simpossible as it sounds...Dont get me wrong I am not anti Holden or Ford for that matter. These are cars that are a credit to our auto industry..But we do not need engines this big.We dont need to follow in the footsteps of the Americans...I feel we are better than them at building 4 door sedans...Why else is it that they are showing so much interest in the Commodores....

[GTS4WD]

How do you get such little power to cc's ratio!?!

[Roy]

Because its cheap and easy to get that sort of power out of such an engine. And here is the thing, owners can tweak them up even further, which for the yanks ans aussies is always a big part of ownign such cars.

Thats why i think the 350Z is failing here, they are not easy or cheap to tune up to big power, not like the turbo Nissans of old and a Monaro or SS

[dangerous_daveo]

If its only 200 cars then thats no problem really...However remember that the 6 litre was also only available in HSV spec...and look now its standard fitment.How long will it be till the 7litre is standard fitment ? Just what we need ...18 yr old P plater driving around in a car with the power of a V8 Supercar almost...Not as simpossible as it sounds...Dont get me wrong I am not anti Holden or Ford for that matter. These are cars that are a credit to our auto industry..But we do not need engines this big.We dont need to follow in the footsteps of the Americans...I feel we are better than them at building 4 door sedans...Why else is it that they are showing so much interest in the Commodores....

Fair point. With the Govt atm, I can see they might put the clampers on soon to stop going for more power. What states are left that have P plate laws where you can still drive a V8 (or one with that much power)? That and although it might still be pushrod, but its a fairly expencive, hi-tech system. So that might limit it just from the cost point of view. Bigger lazy engines are the way of the future I think.

I think the yanks and everyone else is interested in the commo, because from memory we are it when it comes to GM and RWD sedans now. That said, we do probably make a better car than the yanks.

[Hibino]

I bet in time say 20+ years most of us will be wishing we had one of these comonwhores parked in the shed.

lol

[kralster]

Well under full throttle I would say you are correct...However under normal driving conditions...No I still think the GTR would have better economy and cleaner emissions...

lol and you have nothing to base that one what so ever. Pure speculation.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

but for $125000000000000000000000000000000 it still looks like a fu(king taxi

[Nick033]

was looking in the paper on smoko at work the other day and saw a picture of the new holden coupe 60 concept

looks why better then the 427 imo

GM Holden

29 February 2008

www.holden.com.au

GM Holden today marked the diamond anniversary of its first all Australian car by unveiling a stunning two-door performance thoroughbred called Coupe 60.

Coupe 60 celebrates the six decades since GM Holden built the 48-215 at its Fishermans Bend plant in Port Melbourne, Victoria, and provides a glimpse of Holden's future directions in design, engineering and emerging engine technologies.

Exemplifying sports luxury, Coupe 60 is a pillarless concept car that explores the limits of Holden's current rear-wheel drive capabilities, combining racing looks and technology into a road going sportscar experience.

Its sophisticated appearance is delivered through simple and powerful design, highlighted by the pillarless construction and V8 supercar inspired cockpit layout and side-exiting chambered exhaust system with billet alloy tips.

Almost 60mm shorter than the VE sedan, and sitting on 21-inch centre-lock alloy wheels with unique design Kumho high performance semi-slick tyres, Coupe 60 captures all that's exciting about the Holden DNA.

Other racing-derived enhancements include full flat under body, rear underbody air diffuser and functional rear deck-lid spoiler with unique designed LED tail lamps.

The interior also has several unique features. They include one piece carbon fiber bucket seats (featuring leather and suede pad design) and a sports-inspired flat bottomed steering wheel with integrated shift light display and LCD sports instrument cluster.

The high gloss carbon fiber carries through to doors and rear trim providing a contrast to the leather trimmed instrument panel and black suede trimmed pillars, headliners and parcel shelf.

Details and accents are picked out with a distinctive red high shine leather on the seats and dark gunmetal finish and satin chrome on the consoles and doors.

Front seats are adjustable fore and aft to allow easy access to the rear, with four-point race harness restraints for all seating positions.

Under the bonnet is just as forward looking, with a 6.0 litre V8 engine incorporating the latest technologies such as active fuel management and calibrated for E85 ethanol fuel.

Even the paint is a one-off. Called 'Diamond Silver' by Holden designers, it gives a liquid aluminium finish that almost slides off the bodywork.

GM Holden Chairman and Managing Director Mark Reuss said, "Coupe 60 is Holden's 60th anniversary gift to its fans worldwide.

"It highlights Holden's heritage of rear wheel drive performance whilst looking ahead to the potential offered by new technologies and materials.

"This is a vehicle I know our designers would dearly love to see go into production, but for the moment it has to remain a concept only," he said.

Project Designer Manager, Peter Hughes, said, "We were looking to mark the diamond anniversary with a car that captured the Holden DNA and took the current VE range to an exciting next step.

"Even in the early stages of VE development, we knew there was a sensational coupe waiting to get out and the 60 th anniversary has given us the chance to explore that.

"With Coupe 60 we think we have designed a car that has the potential to write another chapter in the book of Holden icons."

Main Features:

Pillarless coupe body;

Derived from flexible GRWD platform;

VE sedan wheelbase.

Powertrain:

6.0L V8 with Active Fuel Management, calibrated for E85 Ethanol fuel;

6-speed manual transmission (SS specification);

Engine oil cooler.

Exterior:

Unique "Diamond Silver" paint colour;

Electrically dropping front & rear side windows;

Racing-derived aerodynamic down-force enhancements:

Rear under-body air diffuser;

Full flat under body;

Functional rear deck-lid spoiler;

21-inch centre-lock alloy wheels;

Unique design Kumho high-performance semi-slick tyres;

High-performance Brembo brake hardware with ducted air cooling for front callipers;

Side-exiting chambered exhaust system with billet alloy tips;

Unique design LED tail lamps;

Exterior mirrors with integral LED side markers.

Interior:

V8-Supercar inspired cockpit layout for enhanced driver visibility and spaciousness;

LCD sports instrument cluster located in a unique column-mounted binnacle;

One-piece carbon fiber bucket seats, featuring unique suede-pad design and distinctive red high shine leather accents;

Front seats are adjustable fore-aft and allow easy access to rear;

Four-point race harness restraints for all seating positions;

Unique sports-inspired flat-bottom steering wheel with integrated shift light display and suede grips;

Unique interior details including air vents, column switches, gear shift knob and pedals.

Interior trim.

Perforated leather trimmed instrument panel;

Black suede trimmed pillars, headliner and parcel shelf;

High gloss carbon fiber used as a structural material for seats, doors and rear trim provides contrast to leather and suede trim;

Details and accents are picked out with red high shine leather, a dark gunmetal finish and satin chrome.

[Shaolin242]

yeah i reckon thats really nice. it actually LOOKS better than the GTR...just from the outside and inside anyway...love the 4way buckets and sidepipes too...

[ras1983]

yeah i reckon thats really nice. it actually LOOKS better than the GTR...just from the outside and inside anyway...love the 4way buckets and sidepipes too...

I don't think it would be difficult to make a car that looks better than the R35 GTR. Its exterior is questionable at best, but its growing on me.

Thankfully the performance more than makes up for the looks.

[scathing]

Thats why i think the 350Z is failing here, they are not easy or cheap to tune up to big power, not like the turbo Nissans of old and a Monaro or SS

Which is a shame, since the car's handling (relatively speaking) makes up for it if you're on a circuit. Unfortunately, circuit work isn't as popular a tuning path (relatively speaking) as aiming for ludicrous speed by cranking the power out.

Those that do want something that's (relatively) underpowered but good around corners tend to save cash and buy Hondas.

[G-Money]

that is sex, but there is no other feeling like boost

[OZ_Pomy]

I cant believe how many close minded people are on this forum. There are other car companys in this world apart from nissan that do target different audiences. Also when will people get the message that HSV and Holdens are to different companys. Yes i do think $125000 is alot of money to pay for a HSV but other people would think people are stupid for paying what they do for a new GTR aswell. I reakon if they put this 7.0l motor in the coupe above that would make for an awesome car.

[scathing]

Yeah.

I want the Coupe 60. That is some hot shit. Looks better than the R35, in my opinion, too. Looks more musculare and aggressive than most things, actually.

I don't like the way the W427 looks though.

[Zoggy]

like i said before very hot although i think the holden badge is a bit too big (front)

[GTR-32U]

lol and you have nothing to base that one what so ever. Pure speculation.

Well until somebody tests one nobody will have...Do you honestly think Nissan will have something out of the showroom thats tuned so lousy that it drinks more juice than a 7 litre V8 ? Technology all you want - at the end of the day those 7 litres of combustion chamber must gulp X amount of fuel and air just to run and drive.This is a massive engine we are talking about here

[Flynnn]

Well until somebody tests one nobody will have...Do you honestly think Nissan will have something out of the showroom thats tuned so lousy that it drinks more juice than a 7 litre V8 ? Technology all you want - at the end of the day those 7 litres of combustion chamber must gulp X amount of fuel and air just to run and drive.This is a massive engine we are talking about here

GM technology = increase engine capacity :laughing-smiley-014:

[scathing]

Most of the GM V8s now have cylinder deactivation for fuel economy, something I don't think the Nissan V8s have yet.

GM technology = increase engine capacity

Sorry, I must have missed the news flash where the R35's engine was the same displacement as the R34's. Or how Nismo's Z-Tune uses the same sized RB as the regular R34 GT-R's.

And we accuse V8 bogan fans of being blind zealots with a tenuous grip on reality......

[getz stuffed]

Lift your game guys, its getting hard to read some of this lunacy from a performance car forum.

P.S. My Ve clubby gets 500ish k's out of 70 litres with mostly stop start driving and 650-700 k's from brisbane to interstate.

[Modena]

Lift your game guys, its getting hard to read some of this lunacy from a performance car forum.

P.S. My Ve clubby gets 500ish k's out of 70 litres with mostly stop start driving and 650-700 k's from brisbane to interstate.

When you drive like a grand ma... and dont worry... petrol prices are only going up... 2 years ago we all had a heart attack when petrol prices hit a few cents over $1 dollar mark... today one litre of BP Ultimate/V Power is $1.59... wake up and smell the coffee... you better be making above 100 K a year to be enjoying your big V8... otherwise your buring money away, literally.