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How Do You Know Its Really A Series 2 R33?

WET-25T

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Hey guys,

Bought my r33 series 2 a few months back and it was manufactured early 1996. I have recently found out that theres such thing as a series 1.5. I have also read somewhere on google that the series 2 started in the later months of 1996.

I was thinking all you had to do was get a series 1, change the interior, front bar and fog lights, and the wing, all to series 2 parts. Then you have what looks like a series 2 on your hands. Obviously this would only work if the car was manufactured in 1996 some time.

I just wanted to know how i can tell that i have a series 2. Call me paranoid but i almost bought a turbo pulsar Q that was made to look like a sss a few years back.

So maybe one of you know exactly what to look for, or what numbers should be in the vin etc.

Sorry if this has been covered but i couldnt find any info on it for the past hour.

Cheers fellas

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Im not 100% sure what else, but series 1 and 2 have a drematic headlight change, that also changes the bonnet guards and bumper.

Series 1 look more "GTR" Styled than the Series 2.

I dont know how easy it is to swap the parts over to make a fake S2.. im sure someone can help.

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DRD-00F Grand Master

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changing a series 1 to a series 2 is an entire front chop... the reo bar is different, and no one does it...

you can tell by your headlights normally, and the bonnet, and the rear facia, and the steering wheel...

There is such a thing as a 1.5, which is what I have... it has the series 1 front, series 2 wing, series 2 engine...

Series 1

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Series 2

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check for the ignitor. if you have an ignitor pack bolted to the back of your coil pack cover, then its a series 1 engine. as for body parts, they are easily exchanged and simple bolt ons. theres many different little things that can determin the difference, but the only way to be sure is in the vin number. Call nissan with the vin and they should be able to tell you what month it was made.

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changing a series 1 to a series 2 is an entire front chop... the reo bar is different, and no one does it...

yes people do, do it. i helped a mate convert his s1 to a s2 front end only a couple of months ago. s2 rio bars can be found easily off a wrecker and bolt straight up to the s1. panels are easy enough to come across also....

at the end of the day, everything can be swapped between both series. best way to check if your that worried about it, is to call nissan with ur vin.

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Cool thanks for the help. I also heard that they have the exact same chasis, so wouldnt they be able to change the bonnet and headlights as well. Plus all the little things.

I know it would take a little work to do it, but i bought it from a dealer and im sure if they could make more money from making a series 1 look like a series 2 they would.

I dont know what the igniter looks like but ill try find out if that will help me. Also thanks for the pics, i have the series 2 headlights but they r dirty, kinda yellowish which sux.

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S2 also have the high spoiler, different s/wheel, driver a/bag as standard etc.

The ignitor (ign module) is a black box thats bolted to the top of the head (in the middle) towards the back of the motor

If its not there, you'll see 4 holes where it should of been. S2 have it built into the oem ecu

chassis are the same, wouldnt be ecnomical to change. Rad support panel is different

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Don't worry about the headlights either... they clean up to a crystal clear compared to the series 1 lights...

Go get a cutting compund onto it, and scrub your arm off... it will look like glass in no time!

I use Mothers Cut & Polish I think... it's in the car, I'll check later if you want :P

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Cool thanks guys.

In regards to the headlights, i bought a second hand one that has clear glass compared to mine. The thing is i cant get the glass off to clean inside. I tried cutting the black silicone but couldnt pull it apart. How do i do it?

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S2 also have the high spoiler, different s/wheel, driver a/bag as standard etc.

The ignitor (ign module) is a black box thats bolted to the top of the head (in the middle) towards the back of the motor

If its not there, you'll see 4 holes where it should of been. S2 have it built into the oem ecu

chassis are the same, wouldnt be ecnomical to change. Rad support panel is different

Not strictly correct as S1.5 came with the higher spoiler standard airbag and the S2 motor with ignitor module module in the ecu and other minor differences such as reversed coilpack mounting pattern. I am 99% sure that the S1.5 was phased out late 1995/early 1996.

If you have a cloth interior, S15/N15/ S2 R33 steering wheel, S2 Dash, S2 "rough" dash fascia, painted rear boot fascia, and S2 front headlights and front bar then you can be pretty sure its a S2... failing that read the S1/S2 FAQ as I cant be bothered pointing out anything else :P ...

FAST is still the 100% sure option though

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Yeah a quick drive to anyone that really knows 33's woul dbe able to tell you beyond a doubt wether or not it is or isn't an actual series 2...

I think November 95 was the last series 1.5, but I'm not sure, it's just that, thats what mine is, and I have seen December 95 Series 2's I believe...

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easy spots are the interior

s1 dash surround is flat and bland

s2 dash surround is bubbled and has a "finish"

same applies to the dash cluster with the warning lights etc

s1 dash warning lights are flat and black plain

d2 dash warning lights are bevelled into the plastic and clear/crisp

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Well i dont know what the ignitor module looks like, all i can see is where the coil packs plug connects to another plug and wires.

Im goin with a mate and his work friend cause he wants 2 get a supra from a Sydney car sales, so ill check out the skylines while im there. Hopefully i remember all the differences because i seem to always forget when im there.

You guys make working out stuff so much easier. Cheers

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