$318 Fine For A Dirty Number Plate !

[DaGr81]

hey all,

my 1st ever traffic infringement (dirty number plate which the officer claimed was illegible) which was accompanied with a defect notice, was on my way to work this morning slowing for a red light when the cops (aka cops) pulled me over long story short, slapped me 318 dollars for a dirty number plate (anyone got any legal advice for this one? is there any extra charges if i took it to court and lost) and then 79 dollars defect for the following - 1. bov, pod filter only 90% enclosed and a missing washer bottle lid (the last ones a wtf?) also they crossed on the blue sheet that my exhaust is too loud and needs to be repaired for noise/emissions (although they didnt test it...is it still required?)

now from what i understand an AUVIS (australian unregistered vehicle inspection station) is just a place where i can get a blue slip right?

so in one day i lost a weeks income (318 + 79 + 160 (change exhaust and change back) + stock bov 50) fkn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! also the officer said i need an engineers certificate to run a pod filter, is this true? cant i just have it fully enclosed (you see it was fully enclosed until i moved the charcoal canister away so if i move it back in there i should be able to pass it off, its one of those hi octane racing ones)

but anyway hopefully someone with some good legal knowledge on here will be able to help me in my argument for the dirty number plate.....

HELP!

[DaGr81]

Also where they have crossed "exhaust/noise emissions" does that mean i need to just change the exhaust or need a full emissions test done via epa etc? And ive been reading in other threads but to no avail that i can go to the RTA first hand and check with one of them as to what i really need fixed, yet not one of these posts actually prove that this is correct.....

Edited April 25, 2008 by DaGr81

[Shaun]

f**kin pricks!

So do cops have a calibrated ear now? How can they tell if an exhaust is 86db or 92db?

Pisses you off.

[DaGr81]

i know *sniff sniff*

[[200]]

f**kin pricks!

So do cops have a calibrated ear now? How can they tell if an exhaust is 86db or 92db?

Pisses you off.

Its an opinion f**kstick.

[kcmagee]

Ok. So you're number plate, it is illegible, unfortunately. It is a pretty decent fine. If you take it to court with all due respect you have bucklies chance of getting off. The other aspect is that when you are found guilty you will also have to incur $67 court costs on top of the mentioned tickets plus legal representation if you decide you need it. You will have the car tested for the exhaust, unfortunately anything which is not standard is a defect unless engineered.

I work as a cop so I am not simply talking out of my arse, there are alot of ppl that will tell you to fight it and all that sort of crap, many have no idea about law or what they are talking about. I guess that decision lies with you. Basically to satisfy the proofs of an illegible/ unreadable registration plate all that has to proven is that the plate was 'unreadable', and due to it being dirty I imagine it was. It is a bit of a harsh ticket, one that I doubt I would write someone myself.

Kind Regards mate and I hope this helps,

Brenton

[BHDave]

no, you don't have to go the epa, just the blue slip. They have to test the volume as part of the blue slip procedure i believe.

The dirty number plate was his excuse to pull you over (maybe thats the new random breath test). The fact that he charged you for that on top of the defects just proves he was a prick.

Edited April 25, 2008 by BHDave

[DaGr81]

Ok. So you're number plate, it is illegible, unfortunately. It is a pretty decent fine. If you take it to court with all due respect you have bucklies chance of getting off. The other aspect is that when you are found guilty you will also have to incur $67 court costs on top of the mentioned tickets plus legal representation if you decide you need it. You will have the car tested for the exhaust, unfortunately anything which is not standard is a defect unless engineered.

I work as a cop so I am not simply talking out of my arse, there are alot of ppl that will tell you to fight it and all that sort of crap, many have no idea about law or what they are talking about. I guess that decision lies with you. Basically to satisfy the proofs of an illegible/ unreadable registration plate all that has to proven is that the plate was 'unreadable', and due to it being dirty I imagine it was. It is a bit of a harsh ticket, one that I doubt I would write someone myself.

Kind Regards mate and I hope this helps,

Brenton

i see, although it is readable as its only covered in a light layer of exhaust gas, and i still havent cleaned it so i could provide before and after photographs etc, but i will ask my mate who is a lawyer anyway, frankly i think that is very harsh especially since ive seen speeding tickets with less $$$ on it

Edited April 25, 2008 by DaGr81

[DaGr81]

phewf, this makes it easier to get it passed via blue slip, the hi octane air box will pull through (bit of ductape and some super sticky electrical tape to patch the holes up and presto fully enclosed LOL) what do you reckon would this pass a blue slip thing?

[D_I_F]

That sucks but it sounds like all legit defects and fines to me. As for the washer bottle lid.. Your car isn't susposed to leak any type of fluids on the road.

[dead32]

i wonder if you would've been pulled over if it was a holden v8 ute with mud all over it from a country ute show....

f**king hate the way sydney has become.... i feel for you mate, as im in the e.p.a boat at the moment, been going on over 4months now, thousand's spent etc and still not passed...

[DaGr81]

That sucks but it sounds like all legit defects and fines to me. As for the washer bottle lid.. Your car isn't susposed to leak any type of fluids on the road.

lol its been empty for 2 years hehehe (im just gonna take it out this sunday) save the hassels, i dont have a problem with the defects its just the dirty number plate fine really!

[DaGr81]

damn, thats too bad man..........do you guys think if i patched up some of the gaps from the airbox with like black plastic and waterproof electrical tape it would pass a blue slip?

[br3tt]

What's the numberplate?

[hanyou]

What's the numberplate?

ahahah i was thinking that too then i realised he meant he physically had a dirty number plate LOL

[GMan]

ahahah i was thinking that too then i realised he meant he physically had a dirty number plate LOL

hahahaha i just got that

[dyken]

is your car a white r33? i passed one the other day i think in newtown which was parked and the rear was very dirty and the numberplate was illegible. seems like a fair fine how hard is it to wipe your number plate clean

[R33Turbo]

mate its probably the boys from The Chasers... LOL

Edited April 25, 2008 by R33Turbo

[siddr20]

oh you physically had a dirty numberplate..

Makes more sense..

I guess its like p-plates not showing..

But 318 bucks is fair bit.. take it to court

[dori34]

oh man that is totally unfair.. WTF

how dirty is your # plate? a few specks of dust on it??