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oh and rhinos time with mods mentioned by ken was a 12.46

and pissnnissan (Beau) chill your new on this forum so take some time to read it see how we operate, not just come on with an elitist attitude (FMPOV).

RB20 struggle to get into the 12's, considering he needed a new clutch at the time i'd called it pretty good effort to get a 13.03 the first time he went to the plex in the car.

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Originally posted by RB20LagWagon

Rhinos best time in the gtr was a 12.4 @ 113 mph and that was with the boost restrictor taken out so it was running 1 bar boost. take out the launch (1.7 60 foot) and a roll on the road makes things alot closer

Yes but compare std to std and the difference will be there.

What you have to remember people is that everyone is not a drag racing expert so dud launches , unwillingness to thrash there pride and joy , respect about street dragging comes into play.

As has been suggested on many occassions, if you want the proof , get the time slip.

And try and compare equivalent spec vehicles ie. std , lightly modded , well worked.

Is more than one GTR done an 11 at the plex and don't see too many SR20 or RB 20 or RB25's in those numbers but these are well worked over so what does it prove. Obviously these guys have bigger chequebooks.

And as I posted earlier , there are SR20's in the 8's in Japan.

What does it all prove??

Enjoy what you have for the time you have it and this

*the GTR can be beaten , my SR20, RB20 , RB25 , XR6 is

better *

crap is getting VERY tiresome.

Cheers

Ken

Originally posted by pisnnissn??

giz01, it may pay to post the footage up here for some people to see, but then again there will be excuses...

mrsnub, thanks for your 2 cents worth but personally i don't give a shit what you'd put your money on. Unless you're going to answer the questions i've asked, or provide some relevant info don't bother replying next time.

First off i have no doubt you (Giz01) have footage of 2 stock GTRs running low 14 sec passes. But do you honestly believe thats the best they can do in stock form? If so you are fooling yourself. Im not saying they are the fastest cars out there, but they are definatly good for at least low 13s stock.... I have seen them do these times. Id say driver ability/track conditions and the possibility that the car was having problems such as slipping clutch etc etc.

Secondly "pisnnissn" there was no need to take that tone and swear at me. I know what lightly modded Silvias can do, my mate run a 13.6 with just exhaust, POD, FMIC and 15psi which is pretty impressive. But really its a 2 litre 4cyl turbo vs a 2.6 litre 6cyl twin turbo..... (And the price tags show this) Like Ken said your comparing apples with oranges.

Plus the fact that you "dont give a shit" about my opinion really doesnt worry me in the slightest, because you have proven in each post that you are really only on here to stir shit, which isn't welcome on these forums.

Ok boys and girls.

It was my purple GTR that this guy is talking about, and yes I was running mid 13's that night. First time in the new car down the plex, stock standard and I was taking off pretty quick but I wasn't hard launching it as I was still getting used to it. I also had some issues getting it into second on most passes (syncho's maybe). But I'm not making excuses, I drive crap.. ha ha ha

I was even beaten in a run with Summoner once....

I have no doubt with a better driver my car would have run a 12, and regarding silvia's if you were to launch a gtr right stock for stock it's no contest, I can vouch for that.....

I don't doubt that what you said is true Pisnnisn, but as the thread stated the GTR didnt' launch so maybe he was just having fun, or maybe he gave it everything and got beat. So what, thats half the fun right.

Still your attitude is not really called for, sure we are a bit one eyed, just like Silvia forums are, but calling any of us ***cking idiots is not really mature is it?

Ryan's best was 12.4 .

Several of a similar stockness have been known to pull high 11's.

Not unusual for R32 GTR's to achieve this sort of time, in near stock form. Not unusual for R33 GTRs either.

You can reasonable expect to lose against a gtr if you have a silvia. If you win then it must feel pretty good but, it doesnt mean you can beat any stockish gtr thereafter.

ryan's mph is indicative of an 11 second pass with some good driving.

The GTR keeps pulling very hard after 400m, not something the sr20 powerplant is equal to.

Any cars performance is hampered by driver inabillity. If a silvia beats a gtr becasue of it then who cares. Visa versa.

What has only been touched on is std s13-s15, i am sure there has been some running 16's if not 17's. but thats no the point. you can't really say "i have seen a GTR run 13s all night" when u dont know what the situation was, for all u know the peron may have only had one leg or something like that. gtrken did it well, and spoke of a car he knows what it has done and has a time slip, for all we know pisnnissn?? u are all talk, coz u have said anything u can back up.

it was summed up well when it was said comparing apples and oranges.

i would also like to point out the diffrence in motors. i have never heard of a sr20 producing 500HP PER 1LITRE. BUT i have seen this in a rb26, signal 34GTR. i would be amazed if an sr20 can do this. pisnnissn?? take it apon yourself to prove me wrong. and i dont wanna hear someone say they are diffrent motor, diffrent displacement, because we are having a gtr vd silvia debate, which means rb26 vs sr20 (ca18). the most i ahve seen push out of a sr is approx 730hp which was 'JUN' s15. and why arn't s1x used in events such as vmax etc.

the s1x isnt a bad car dont get me wrong, but i know i will have a gtr over it anyday.

bathurst anyone ? rember many years ago

B0BB0

p.s "The GTR can neva loose"

I did not say that a std gtr is only capable of low 14's i just said i have video footage that shows 2 gtr's running these times on probably the best drag strip in oz. No doubt they could be driven faster! I have ran 13.75@102mph @ willowbank with only a 3" exhaust, hot air pod filter & 14psi in my gf's 97 s14a auto(2.16 60ft) & i am going back down to willowbank on the 23rd aug to hopefully knock a few more tenths off this with cold air partion & chiptorque chip as i have seen a similarly stock s15 run 13.3 with like this which to me is more impressive than a gtr running mid 13's. I think the reason some people like pisnnissin are talking the way he is, is because the guys on nissan silva are bragging about beating the mighty gtr & if they didn't think it was fast then why would they brag about beating it? I mean i wasted a echo off the lights the other day & didn't i feel like a champion then!

Obviously the gtr was sick or the driver crap or only having half ago, who knows but a wins a win!

Originally posted by AeroGrace

i was just thinkin' if you "pulled up next" to a car, can you really see if it has a front-mount? Let alone what brand it was......

:uh-huh:

Nice point !! *imagine him getting off the car and walk around the GTR and get back into his car and rev a lil, light turns green and off he goes !* :D

Considering the same amount of money spent, rb26 will have more potential. Most people will agree wouldnt they?

I have owned both a quick Silvia, an S15 with 280 hp ATW, and now an R32 GTR at the limit of the std terbs with 340 hp ATW (both on the same dyno). Whilst the GTR runs the faster time slip, the S15 funnily enough felt faster due to the steep power curve. The S15 also had the higher top speed (256 km/h) compared with the R32 (245 km/h is the best so far).

All in all, however, the GTR is a much more enjoyable car to drive hard and feels far more predictable when exiting a corner on full noise (no surprise here with the ATESSA).

I have also been chopped a few times by Silvias (and even Summoner's V8) when caught at the lights off boost. But as gtrken says, when challenged in a rolling start it's a different matter. Gotta love the feeling when challenged on the freeway and there is plenty of room - drop back to third straight into full boost at 4 grand on 100 km/h, hold this gear until the taco hits 8 grand and more likely than not your adversary will be a distant object in the rear view mirror.

Both the SR20 and the RB26 are great engines that will go down in history as a tribute to Nissan.

Originally posted by Gav

Both the SR20 and the RB26 are great engines  that will go down in history as a tribute to Nissan.

:uh-huh: no doubt

i sure hope their venture into the V-series engines brings them as much success as before...:D

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