Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 895
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

or because link do the manufacturing for them and already had that casing designed it was cheaper to just use it than design a new one?

Seperate companies manufacture the cases as well as the chipsets...they supply their products to both Vi-pec and Link...this cuts down on design and manufacturing costs for both Link and Vi-pec. A sensible arrangement really as it makes the end product cheaper for the consumer.

Edited by DiRTgarage

When I took the end plate off my Vi-PEC V88, the PCB is screened with G4 Extreme. I love my V88, will be grabbing a V44 shortly for my other car and I'll bet if I tried to update it with the Link G4 storm firmware it would have a good chance of working. On Link's website you can also associate Vipec ECU's with your user account there too.

so the question has come up, are they the same. I just downloaded both software from both sites and they are identical.

We were told software was different.

Also checked the price tag, seems as if the vipec is around $400 more expensive. What would be the reason for this if they are the same? they are looking like the same product so far.

what i can make of it, seems as if the links use a adaptor harness for the plug ins where the vipec has the nissan plug on the board itself.

Is that what we are paying the extra $400 ? a true plug equiv of the link? that was developed by TFelectronics?

post-1240-1227486599_thumb.jpg

go through the vipec software help files, look at the screenshots and the titles used in each. All are PClink.

The suppport from Ray for the Vipec in my experience is very good, I rate that highly on my "needs" list. Similar queries that went to Link in NZ weren't as quick. I'm happy to pay the extra for the local and fast support.

go through the vipec software help files, look at the screenshots and the titles used in each. All are PClink.

The suppport from Ray for the Vipec in my experience is very good, I rate that highly on my "needs" list. Similar queries that went to Link in NZ weren't as quick. I'm happy to pay the extra for the local and fast support.

this may be the case, the extra $400 may be worth TFelectronics known good support + the direct true plug version. Seems like they are trying to hide something that may be a good thing??

okay, looks as if the difference i can see is that the TFelectronics version is a modified version which makes it a true plug in.

Here are pics, as you can see the Vipec has a Nissan plug on the board and this would mean the board would have to be totally re-designed to do this.

This one is the TF Electronics board...

post-1240-1227489574_thumb.jpg

And this one is the link adaptor

post-1240-1227489610_thumb.jpg

So basically, TF are doing the same with the Link as what he was doing with the Autronic plug in's.. taking a ECU and engineering it to work directly with the OEM wiring harness - take the guts out of your ecu and put this one inside it and you have a true plug in.

So yes the nissan plug in's would be a different ecu, with the same software and chip. But the other wire in jobs, like the V88 ?? Who knows.

For me, the V44 plug in. I am going to bite the bullet and say that the extra price might be worth what your getting, But stay tuned.. we will see how it goes when i get my ecu soon! Then I will make judgement for sure.

You gonna take the V44 to Yavuz for a look-see? I reckon he'd like a look at it.

yeah i will give him a call once its all going, i think he is more interested in the Gizzmo K-Mon though

from my experience, the support and customer service for me has been fantastic. Lincoln has been more than happy to answer any questions i have had and help out with any issues i have encountered. I couldn't recommend him enough to anyone looking at purchasing one in NSW.

yeah, shifting:

Original reply: nope, you are imagining things, they are different

New reply: ok, some parts come from the same vendors

Reality: they are the same except for the sticker on the case.

From the horses mouth...Ray Hall...hope this puts an end to the speculation that the Vi-PEC is a rebadged Link...its actually the other way.

The Vipec was developed to my specification and uses a lot of the features associated with the Autronic ECU. I wanted a ECU that was better then the Autronic in areas that had caused me and my dealers a lot of frustration when tuning. The Vipec works just as I requested, and as can be seen from this forum and other feedback the product is very good. If I had stayed with Autronic, and had not influenced the design of the Vipec, the Link product would not be close to the way it is now, which is a re-badged Vipec.

The Vipec comes with mine and the Vipec dealers support. If you want that support, then you have to pay for it.

Ray.

Edited by DiRTgarage

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Nah, that is hella wrong. If I do a simple linear between 150°C (0.407v) and 50°C (2.98v) I get the formula Temperature = -38.8651*voltage + 165.8181 It is perfectly correct at 50 and 150, but it is as much as 20° out in the region of 110°C, because the actual data is significantly non-linear there. It is no more than 4° out down at the lowest temperatures, but is is seriously shit almost everywhere. I cannot believe that the instruction is to do a 2 point linear fit. I would say the method I used previously would have to be better.
    • When I said "wiring diagram", I meant the car's wiring diagram. You need to understand how and when 12V appears on certain wires/terminals, when 0V is allowed to appear on certain wires/terminals (which is the difference between supply side switching, and earth side switching), for the way that the car is supposed to work without the immobiliser. Then you start looking for those voltages in the appropriate places at the appropriate times (ie, relay terminals, ECU terminals, fuel pump terminals, at different ignition switch positions, and at times such as "immediately after switching to ON" and "say, 5-10s after switching to ON". You will find that you are not getting what you need when and where you need it, and because you understand what you need and when, from working through the wiring diagram, you can then likely work out why you're not getting it. And that will lead you to the mess that has been made of the associated wires around the immobiliser. But seriously, there is no way that we will be able to find or lead you to the fault from here. You will have to do it at the car, because it will be something f**ked up, and there are a near infinite number of ways for it to be f**ked up. The wiring diagram will give you wire colours and pin numbers and so you can do continuity testing and voltage/time probing and start to work out what is right and what is wrong. I can only close my eyes and imagine a rat's nest of wiring under the dash. You can actually see and touch it.
    • So I found this: https://www.efihardware.com/temperature-sensor-voltage-calculator I didn't know what the pullup resistor is. So I thought if I used my table of known values I could estimate it by putting a value into the pullup resistor, and this should line up with the voltages I had measured. Eventually I got this table out of it by using 210ohms as the pullup resistor. 180C 0.232V - Predicted 175C 0.254V - Predicted 170C 0.278V - Predicted 165C 0.305V - Predicted 160C 0.336V - Predicted 155C 0.369V - Predicted 150C 0.407V - Predicted 145C 0.448V - Predicted 140C 0.494V - Predicted 135C 0.545V - Predicted 130C 0.603V - Predicted 125C 0.668V - Predicted 120C 0.740V - Predicted 115C 0.817V - Predicted 110C 0.914V - Predicted 105C 1.023V - Predicted 100C 1.15V 90C 1.42V - Predicted 85C 1.59V 80C 1.74V 75C 1.94V 70C 2.10V 65C 2.33V 60C 2.56V 58C 2.68V 57C 2.70V 56C 2.74V 55C 2.78V 54C 2.80V 50C 2.98V 49C 3.06V 47C 3.18V 45C 3.23V 43C 3.36V 40C 3.51V 37C 3.67V 35C 3.75V 30C 4.00V As before, the formula in HPTuners is here: https://www.hptuners.com/documentation/files/VCM-Scanner/Content/vcm_scanner/defining_a_transform.htm?Highlight=defining a transform Specifically: In my case I used 50C and 150C, given the sensor is supposedly for that. Input 1 = 2.98V Output 1 = 50C Input 2 = 0.407V Output 2 = 150C (0.407-2.98) / (150-50) -2.573/100 = -0.02573 2.98/-0.02573 + 47.045 = 50 So the corresponding formula should be: (Input / -0.02573) + 47.045 = Output.   If someone can confirm my math it'd be great. Supposedly you can pick any two pairs of the data to make this formula.
    • Well this shows me the fuel pump relay is inside the base of the drivers A Pillar, and goes into the main power wire, and it connects to the ignition. The alarm is.... in the base of the drivers A Pillar. The issue is that I'm not getting 12v to the pump at ignition which tells me that relay isn't being triggered. AVS told me the immobiliser should be open until the ignition is active. So once ignition is active, the immobiliser relay should be telling that fuel pump relay to close which completes the circuit. But I'm not getting voltage at the relay in the rear triggered by the ECU, which leaves me back at the same assumption that that relay was never connected into the immobiliser. This is what I'm trying to verify, that my assumption is the most likely scenario and I'll go back to the alarm tech yet again that he needs to fix his work.      Here is the alarms wiring diagram, so my assumption is IM3A, IM3B, or both, aren't connected or improper. But this is all sealed up, with black wiring, and loomed  
×
×
  • Create New...