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B-Man, yes there was a vulnerability in the windows operating system. However the the vulnerability was hacked by someone who decided to exploit it to send a worm around the net. Now had this person not intentionally created a program to exploit this vulnerability then everything would be fine.

I don't believe Microsoft are to be held accountable for what happened. It happened because some idiot decided to be a prick. The only person responsible for shit network performance due to packet loss is the person who wrote this worm. I have also recently been made aware that Microsoft did have a patch available to cure this vulnerablility (although I am reserving my judgement on the accuracy of this info). So therefore in my mind they found a problem and supplied a solution to it. I'll bet money on the fact that not 1 person I took a call from about this issue applied that patch.

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The patch was actually available quite abit before this worm made its appearance (I believe around 2 mths earlier).

But then again how many people even know how to switch off their PC correctly let alone logon to WindowsUpdate.com

No. But thats Microsoft for you !

So do you agree that it is unfair ?

B-Man, yes there was a vulnerability in the windows operating system. However the the vulnerability was hacked by someone who decided to exploit it to send a worm around the net. Now had this person not intentionally created a program to exploit this vulnerability then everything would be fine.  

I don't believe Microsoft are to be held accountable for what happened. It happened because some idiot decided to be a prick. The only person responsible for shit network performance due to packet loss is the person who wrote this worm. I have also recently been made aware that Microsoft did have a patch available to cure this vulnerablility (although I am reserving my judgement on the accuracy of this info). So therefore in my mind they found a problem and supplied a solution to it. I'll bet money on the fact that not 1 person I took a call from about this issue applied that patch.

I just think commercial operating systems should quality control their products better - MS are making quillions so they should be able to afford too. The vulerability was Microsoft's problem in the first place in my mind - had it not been there - No Blaster. Simple as that in my mind. I know all software vendors release product with bugs - but I reckon they should test it better before they release it - Not Linux and GPL software cause no-one makes $$ out of that the same way MS, Oracle, Peoplesoft, SAP, etc make money.

Imagine if SAP had a bug in their payroll module - then some shmuck decides to exploit it because he's pissed with his brother-in-law or whatever. And becasue of the exploit - no one gets paid for 2 months while SAP write and distribute the patch - That woiuld be un-acceptable right ? SAP's fault right ?

Software is software - you pay for a product - It should work.

That's only my view of course - And I do tend to wear rose coloured glasses looking at the perfect world out there - Cause I am pretty perfect myself, NOT.

Cheers

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Originally posted by B-Man

So do you agree that it is unfair ?

Yes I agree its unfair but nothing will be changed to fix the problem.

Software is software - you pay for a product - It should work.

When you pay for this product... then take it home.... remove it from the plastic... rip through the T&C's that state that no responsibility will be take for blah blah blah you have just laid the blame on yourself for anything that goes wrong.

When you pay for this product... then take it home.... remove it from the plastic... rip through the T&C's that state that no responsibility will be take for blah blah blah you have just laid the blame on yourself for anything that goes wrong.

Yes I know - and that's not fair either - All care and no responsibility.

I know I'm discussing this pointlessly - Everyone just accepts it - However, if we all didn't just accept the situation - the software vendors would do different - IMHO.

yeah, no doubt that levels of issues in software would never be tolerated in other industries....

...but in this case, the vendor has supplied a fix for their problem before some l337 haxor created the worm, they've done their bit by making the fix available to all licensed owners for no charge.

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