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thanks key i do need to google harder i seems ;o i must have googled the wrong thing, i could only find the porsche clubs like ras posted b4 and not decent forums

lol @ www.richerthanmerightnow.com ^^^

i'm trying to learn Porsche's for a possible new job ><

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Jealousy most of the time i guess

Porkas are noice, gt3 rs in orange has to be the hottest thing going around right now (albeit very rare)

Excellent choice, but don't mind white myself ( oh and it's an RSR :blink: )

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Yep, you sure have to be a wanker to own one of these :)

why does everyone look at porsche owners as wankers??

Usually because they are.

There's nothing wrong with Porsche cars, and I would love a Cayman S if I could afford it, but the vast majority of them out there seem to be investment bankers or other people wanting to flaunt the fact that they have enough wealth to not get stuck in something as common as a tarted up repmobile (M3), but not enough money to own a Ferrari and another car for when the Ferrari breaks down.

Most of them are like (and I'm donning my flamesuit right now) 2WD Skyline owners. They're buying into the brand name because they want to be seen in a Porsche, not because they appreciate the engineering behind them. Most of them couldn't tell you what race car holds the outright Nordschleife lap record, but ask them about Titleist products and they'd talk your ear off.

There are plenty of enthusiast Porsche owners, but unfortunately (like a lot of things) the people that can afford them are the people that shouldn't have them. Lets put it this way. Most Cayenne sales have gone to people who already owned another Porsche. People who think that a Porsche SUV is a good idea are people that shouldn't be buying Porsches, because they just don't get it.

I'm not jealous. If they bought an AMG or some other high powered Euro luxo sports car for people who don't care about how their car goes, then I'd give them the thumbs up for buying the prestige car with lots of poke that suits them. I just don't see a Porsche as being the right choice for those types of people.

Jealosy, maybe. But to be totally honest, if i had the money to buy a brand new porsche, i'd walk straight past the dealership and buy something else. Stigma aside, they just don't do it for me. There's something about porsches that just seems a bit clinical, probably stems from the fact that they're not real lookers.

And before folk start posting pictures of GT2's and the like saying they're beautiful stop and think - do you want one because it's pretty, or because you know what it can do? When a car has known potential, it becomes desirable.

There are quite a few of us (Australians) on these two forums.

http://www.rennlist.com/

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/index.php

Having been around and driven ALOT of Euros and exotics, I can tell you a “plain Jane” run of the mill Ferrari isn’t has exciting as you may think, just like a “plain Jane” run of the mill Porsche isn’t that exciting. I wouldn’t go as far to say Porsche owners are just a poor mans Ferrari owner but because that’s about as far from the truth as you can get..

Doesn’t matter what you have, Skyline, Ferrari, Porsche, M series BMW you will ALWAYS get half buying them just for the badge.

porkers were cool untill they switched to water cooled set up....

old man had a ratty 78 was pretty fun .... in the dry

I agree. Having been brought up with air cooled Porsche all my life I am way to bias towards them, but you just can’t beat the reliability and the bolt on power upgrades of the water cooled 996’s/997’s compared to trying to pull power from an old Bosch K-Jetronic injection motor.

Most of them couldn't tell you what race car holds the outright Nordschleife lap record, but ask them about Titleist products and they'd talk your ear off.

People who think that a Porsche SUV is a good idea are people that shouldn't be buying Porsches, because they just don't get it.

Oh so true!!!!!!!!!

LOL

Usually because they are.

There's nothing wrong with Porsche cars, and I would love a Cayman S if I could afford it, but the vast majority of them out there seem to be investment bankers or other people wanting to flaunt the fact that they have enough wealth to not get stuck in something as common as a tarted up repmobile (M3), but not enough money to own a Ferrari and another car for when the Ferrari breaks down.

Most of them are like (and I'm donning my flamesuit right now) 2WD Skyline owners. They're buying into the brand name because they want to be seen in a Porsche, not because they appreciate the engineering behind them. Most of them couldn't tell you what race car holds the outright Nordschleife lap record, but ask them about Titleist products and they'd talk your ear off.

There are plenty of enthusiast Porsche owners, but unfortunately (like a lot of things) the people that can afford them are the people that shouldn't have them. Lets put it this way. Most Cayenne sales have gone to people who already owned another Porsche. People who think that a Porsche SUV is a good idea are people that shouldn't be buying Porsches, because they just don't get it.

I'm not jealous. If they bought an AMG or some other high powered Euro luxo sports car for people who don't care about how their car goes, then I'd give them the thumbs up for buying the prestige car with lots of poke that suits them. I just don't see a Porsche as being the right choice for those types of people.

Personally I see nothing wrong with people being able to afford a certain car, buying a certain car. There are GTR owners who's car will NEVER see the track. You could probably even say the majority wil never see the track. So you can apply the above statements to pretty much any car with a "reputation".

Some buy cars to enjoy, others buy cars because they can, and want the association of a particular brand/image.

Sorry mate, just don't agree with the generalisations specifically aimed at Porsche drivers, cause I think you'd struggle to find a single noteable car which doesn't see the same scenarios.

Sorry mate, just don't agree with the generalisations specifically aimed at Porsche drivers, cause I think you'd struggle to find a single noteable car which doesn't see the same scenarios.

I'll name one, off the top of my head. The Lotus Elise/Exige.

You hardly ever see poseurs rolling in those things, despite the blue-chip racing-rich badge and the aura of a lightweight British roadster, because people who buy status symbols can't deal with the flipside of how the Elise earns its reputation. I'm sure if you could gracefully get into and out of one at the golf course it might be a little different, but as it is its people who care about how the Elise drives that actually buy the car.

And those generalisations aren't aimed just at Porsche drivers. If you watch Top Gear you'll know that M3 drivers in the UK have the same reputation (its not quite as bad down here), which they've now shifted to RS4 owners.

Those reputations don't come out of sheer jealousy without some basis in fact - in the M3 heyday Audi and AMG owners didn't cop the same flak even though they were the same price and class. Why don't Lambo owners get tarred with the same "small pen is" brush that Fazza owners do? They're just as excessively outlandish, if not moreso.

Generalisations may not fit everyone in the demographic, but causality should tell you that they have to come from somewhere.

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