Running Like Shyte After Cluster Change.

[W0rp3D]

Went to gippsland yesterday from frankston, didnt miss a beat for the whole 340k's, even got 10.5ltrs/100k's, this morning i started it and it run fine, decided to work on it instaed of going to spend money so i turned it off, been having problems since i installed my lcd nismo cluster, it says im doing half the speed im actually doing so i thought i would put the old one back in and see if that fixed it, before i put the facia back on i took it for a quick spin, as soon as i started it i relised something was wrong, it idled like a pig and every time you reved it there was a cloud of black smoke, took it for a quick spin after stalling 3 times trying to get it out of the drive way, stalled a couple of more times whilst slowing for speed humps and still putting out black smoke.

Question is what is behind the cluster that could cause this to happen?

[W0rp3D]

Also is there any way to check what fault codes there are with out using the consult software or lead?

[W0rp3D]

Took out the plugs and attached pics, they look bad but im assuming it is more from un burnt fuel.

How do i check my coils and ignitor to make sure they are working properly?

This is a video of it idling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZunvUc8ihmU

Edited December 26, 2008 by W0rp3D

[Adriano]

Have you tried unplugging the cluster to see if it fixes the problem?

[W0rp3D]

yep swapped them back and it still has the same problem, i then removed it all together and still the same problem, cleaned everything up (couldnt get new spark plugs today so i just put the old ones back in) and put it back together, run about 90% good untill i touched the accelerator then it went back to shit, will get new plugs tomorrow and see if its just that, im assuming its possibly igniter and/or coil packs but would like some more info on testing before i replace them.

[daisu]

You don't need a consult or whatever to check error codes, there are LED's on the side of the ECU.

[W0rp3D]

is there a certain process i have to do get an error code?

[W0rp3D]

Worked out how to do it, code comes up as 2 long flashes and one short one which i believe is 21?

Now i just have to figure out what it means, all the threads i find does not have a definate cause of a 21 fault code, seems to be a cas, igniter or coil pack problem, any one know which one is the best to start with?

[W0rp3D]

Just replaced the cas it it would not start at all, sounds like its trying to kick on a couple of cylinders but just wont turn start, put the old one back on that the engine would start with but run like shyte and now it wont start with that one either.

Any one have any ideas, gotta be someone out there with an idea??

[W0rp3D]

I have since gotten the car to start, i have replaced the afm, coil paks and ecu with no change, still trying to get a hold of an igniter.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[W0rp3D]

BTW i have come to the conclusion that the cluster change was a coincidence but i cant change the topic.

Edited January 9, 2009 by W0rp3D

[Craved]

sounds like a piping issue - check there are no leaks.

[W0rp3D]

have searched but could not find anything.

[W0rp3D]

Does anyone know how to read fault codes, when i first did it the fault code came up as 2 long flash's and one short one, i assumed this meant 21, after looking at the manual the way they describe it is that it means 12, have attached a page from the manual.

[jeffworld2]

i would check your afm, swap it out if you can or even just make sure its plugged in. Check all the wires are fine where they go into the plug, sometimes they ge bent or stretched to much and you need to solder them in

[W0rp3D]

i would check your afm, swap it out if you can or even just make sure its plugged in. Check all the wires are fine where they go into the plug, sometimes they ge bent or stretched to much and you need to solder them in

That was one of the first things i changed, played around with the wires and there was no change, unplugged it, surged for a second or so and died, woud not start again, plugged it back in and it fired up but still ran like shit.

[justin911]

did u check all the fuses and stuff ?

[W0rp3D]

no, fuses didnt cross my mind, what one would cause these sorts of troubles?

Just bought a fuel pressure gauge to see if the reg is screwed, any idea what the fuel rail pressure should be?

[W0rp3D]

Got the fuel pressure gauge in, on idle it sits at 38psi when reving goes to around 44psi, videobelow shows the gauge and the smoke it is putting out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m880G2xlWhc

Edited January 11, 2009 by W0rp3D

[ashneel]

i dont know if this would help or not but when one of my cooler pipes came off thats how my car ran but it wouldnt idle at all it would just die. it looks like car is geting fuel so thats fine. just check all the fuse. there should be a bunch next to the accelerator pedal and the box in the engine bay. check it all.