Raising The Age For Learners

[eeiko321]

hey guys

i was reading the paper today, there was a section that had a brief discussion.....and it said something about the age being raised for Learners liscence...

sometime in the end of this month is when it will be issued...

is this true?

[4teecal]

Yes.

Learners licence at 30..............................................................................

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[R34Liner]

lol - poor buggers if it is true

[GTR-32U]

Thats no good. I have always thought that it should be a compulsory subject at School. Proper driver training, as well as basic Auto troubleshooting. Things like where to put the oil, water , fuel even. Checking tyre pressures etc

[Primordial]

Agreed.. follow finlands lead, and train kids from a very young age, and teach compulsory advanced defensive driving

[eeiko321]

Agreed.. follow finlands lead, and train kids from a very young age, and teach compulsory advanced defensive driving

well the thing is....no matter what they do....... there are always idiots ruining it for others.

the current laws i think are really harsh already...... 3 yr P's and apparently a Curfew (not sure on this)

but yet......today i saw a 3 different girls on 3 different occasions today, driving at excessive speeds...all both were Red P's and one was Green.

i guess one day they'll have it figured

[eeiko321]

Yes.

Learners licence at 30..............................................................................

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then you must be pretty OLD, champ.....

lol

[cuppas]

the one passenger business sucks balls when theres a heap of drunk mates to get home

[SLY-25T]

i think its a good idea. so many dikhed P plate drivers u see out there. but im not being biased. there are a fair few maniac full licenced people too.

i drove the whole stupid driving thing home wen i was teaching. showing pics of pretty bad crashes etc so they understand. and my old high school did some driving lessons. like gettin ppl from RTA out to give lectures etc.

[willL]

any idea on what the age was being raised to?

new P platers here in Vic have it fair shit now....4 years on P's with a whole bunch restrictions, dont think it can get much worse.

[Kintake]

This rumor is not true. We should all just move to the ACT before they go crazy too.

[scathing]

The only thing that raising the learning age is going to do is shift the age where inexperienced drivers die due to a lack of skill.

[4teecal]

then you must be pretty OLD, champ.....

lol

Yeap. Finding it hard to pack my zimmer frame into the car these days.

[eeiko321]

Yeap. Finding it hard to pack my zimmer frame into the car these days.

c'mon......dont be such a pussy!... Your only 30!

[Cassbo]

The only thing that raising the learning age is going to do is shift the age where inexperienced drivers die due to a lack of skill.

I agree, especially when you think about people who are made famous by motor sport and when they started controlling vehicles.

Besides, the whole idea is impractical. We have a skill shortage right? How is a kid starting an apprenticeship going to get a job when he can't get himself from one job to another?

Personally, I think they need to rethink the testing. At the moment it tests your ability to obey the road rules and to reverse park. While that's all well and good, it doesn't test your ability to drive.

[4teecal]

c'mon......dont be such a pussy!... Your only 30!

Must mistake me for someone else. I vaguely remember 30.

[scathing]

Hand-eye co-ordination skills are best learnt at a young age. Its science - something our current goverments seem ignorant of.

Raising the learning age just decreases the likelihood that motorists gain the trained reflexes to "instinctively" control a car. Without instinctive control, the motorist needs to consciously think about what they're doing. Thinking about the mechanics of steering a car is id mental effort not used considering what their fellow motorists are doing, what pedestrians are doing, what warning signposts they've passed, what the traffic signals are doing, etc.

The lack of structured driver education, and pitiful testing criteria, means there's a pretty weak standard that motorists are measured against. You put those two together, and you're just going to see more accidents.

[donutdavid]

Hand-eye co-ordination skills are best learnt at a young age. Its science - something our current goverments seem ignorant of.

Raising the learning age just decreases the likelihood that motorists gain the trained reflexes to "instinctively" control a car. Without instinctive control, the motorist needs to consciously think about what they're doing. Thinking about the mechanics of steering a car is id mental effort not used considering what their fellow motorists are doing, what pedestrians are doing, what warning signposts they've passed, what the traffic signals are doing, etc.

The lack of structured driver education, and pitiful testing criteria, means there's a pretty weak standard that motorists are measured against. You put those two together, and you're just going to see more accidents.

I disagree with first part of your post and it's not picking on young blokes the simple reason is we're not mature enough at 16 hence 18 is when we all become adults even that some kids develop much earlier, Also whole of Europe is set with 18 years of age and most of the world.

However, I totally agree with your last bit our driver training is shambles. The solution would be to increase to 18 and have structured driver training/ testing.

Even then you can't eliminate idiotic drivers taking it to the limit as being an idiot is a choice some of us make!

[burkill]

i think the age for your p's should be 18, not 17.

either way, it's not my job to decide.

being on my greens doesn't really bother me,i couldn't afford a turbo car at the moment anyway. i can rive a few mates around at night, just can't do 110 on the freeway, but i usually do. i've got about 7 months left, so it should fly by.

[scathing]

I disagree with first part of your post and it's not picking on young blokes the simple reason is we're not mature enough at 16 hence 18 is when we all become adults

Correction - at 18 we legally get considered adults. It's an arbitrary number. There's no mental or biological metamorphosis between 17 years and 364 days and the day after that just makes people mature and sensible. They might be more mature than at 16, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're mature enough.

There are plenty of 18 year olds who are still too stupid to be allowed to operate heavy machinery. Plenty of 21 year olds too. 25, statistically, seems to be when people calm down behind the wheel. At least enough to be given a lower risk rating by car insurance companies.

Then again, I haven't seen any proof that its not approximately 7 years of driving experience that doesn't cause the drop in accidents. Hopefully most people have the mental capacity to pick up most of the skills they need to cover almost all the situations they're likely to find themselves on a public road.

When people get used to something they get blase about it. When something is new they go out and run amok, and exploring the limits of this new found freedom. After a while, when you've "been there done that" people tend to stop.