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Trozzle Grand Master

Trozzle

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Why am I hearing that to register a vehicle with an aftermarket FMI, or at least a vehicle that isn't fitted stock with a FMI, you are required to have an engineer's certificate?

The list of PDF files StinkyPoo linked to in the Turbo Timer thread didn't seem to have anything relating to air-intake of the engine, be it Turbos, Superchargers, pod-filters or anything...unless I missed it lol

Anyone got anything solid on this?

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i was told that you could only have one intake mode.. ie pod filter or intercooler.. not both. if you have more than one you need to get it engineered.

im not saying that the above statement is correct, that is what i was told but the engineer

i got my pod filter engineered because i had to do my coilovers so i thought i might as well do that too. i also got my pedals and boost gauge engineered

Trozzle Grand Master

Trozzle

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That's what I've heard also...So if the only engine mods on a car I'm looking at are FMI and Turbo-back exhaust, it *should* be ok? :wub:

Also, by "engineered" you mean certified, or (re)fitted by an engineer?

Approximately how much that cost?

Thanks

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Yeh, I don't think many cops would pick on you cos it's soo easy to remove a FMIC. Anyways, here is the section of text:

1.1 MODIFICATIONS NOT REQUIRING CERTIFICATION

• Fitting a replacement new, used or reconditioned engine.

• Fitting a manufacturer’s optional engine together with any associated components as supplied by the manufacturer for that same model vehicle.

• Fitting replacement original equipment (or equivalent) engine and exhaust components.

• Fitting replacement original equipment, equivalent or better, components that have no influence on engine performance or emissions. (e.g. higher volume oil pump than original)

In all of the above cases, if the engine is modified, it must be certified under the relevant Approval Code.

1.2 MODIFICATIONS REQUIRING CERTIFICATION UNDER LA APPROVAL CODES

• Fitting equivalent engines (within 20% of original power and engine mass).

• Fitting performance engines.

• Installing a supercharger or turbocharger.

• Modifying engines and engine components.

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One reason is that generally to fit a FMIC you need to cut extra holes in your car for pipework.

If you cut holes without reinforcing hole perimeter you have reduced structural integrity of Monocoque chassis..(technically anyway).

Any modifications to car chassis obviously needs to be engineer certified...

There are other regulations that are State dependant...

nerm Mentor

nerm

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i used john wilson of AKZ engineering. cost me $550 to engineer my coilovers, pod filter, non standard wheels, boost gauge, aftermarket pedals and turbo timer. it took about a week to get the report back from him andi had no issues getting my car registered. i know some people have had problems with him.. i believe one was naughtyruski

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i used john wilson of AKZ engineering. cost me $550 to engineer my coilovers, pod filter, non standard wheels, boost gauge, aftermarket pedals and turbo timer. it took about a week to get the report back from him andi had no issues getting my car registered. i know some people have had problems with him.. i believe one was naughtyruski

I've dealt with John on my previous car modification pre-skyline.. Not going to say anything here.

I went to Ray Spence to get my engineering done (POD, Wheels, FMIC, Exhaust) for $550. Took 8 hours to get the report in my hands (dropped off in the morning, picked up in the arvo). I think it was Mick that actually put me on to Ray Spence (cheers for that).

Trozzle Grand Master

Trozzle

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On the note of needing an engineer's cert for mods, where I read that, it also stated that interstate certificates are sufficient. Would a Queensland "modplate" count for this? If all mods have been certified and the car has been given this "modplate", I'm wondering if that will count enough.

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I've dealt with John on my previous car modification pre-skyline.. Not going to say anything here.

I went to Ray Spence to get my engineering done (POD, Wheels, FMIC, Exhaust) for $550. Took 8 hours to get the report in my hands (dropped off in the morning, picked up in the arvo). I think it was Mick that actually put me on to Ray Spence (cheers for that).

x2 about not saying anything, I could say a massive amount.

I highly recommend Ray Spence. :cool:

Trozzle Grand Master

Trozzle

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Called Dickson Motor Registry this arvo, the modplate doesn't count for anything unless it's backed up by signed paperwork...that isn't necessarily a problem at this point, at least all the mods are done properly so getting an engineer's certificate from Ray when I've got the car won't be a trouble...only more money >.<

Other than the engineer's certificate, can anyone see any real reason I shouldn't grab this car while I can? http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/R3...ht-t242518.html

Currently asking $14000 (plus $521 to send it to Canberra), and it has a new clutch as stated on the last page.

Thanks :D

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