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Ah crap ...I just re-read the reply from Eastcoast Susp. and just realized I missed this part completely...

"I checked with Lovells & as the 'normal car springs' are conical in shape, the rate is variable, the average rate of the front spring is

140lbs & the rear is 160lbs, these sound soft, however they will be firmer thanthe originals"

Hmm ,..average rate ??? Is that the spring rate all manufacturers quote ? I'm so confused now. Might be better to stick with Whitelines anyway just to be sure I'm getting good stuff.

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