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Thats only if its the Neo engine,

Non-Neo (R33 S2) alot more work to get the Power FC working

Dezz what engine is going in?? and what loom you using??

Pretty sure she's got a Neo engine...So the 34 GTT pfc is the go?

If so, anyone got the link to this pin54 trick?

and no idea on the loom sorry...

You CAN use the R34 GT-t unit on the s2 R33 engine, but it takes a fair bit of internal modification. I've got it running in my car, so I know - Mark @ Hills Motorsports can do the mods, and has done mine, Duncan's, and about 10 others. I *think* it's around $700-odd for the modifications to be done (assuming you already own a PFC).

Mark told me he can get pretty much any RB-engine PFC running any RB engine, so give him a call... (02) 9899-9962.

As for the secret tweak to pin 54 (or 51?), do a search in this section for "Secret Squirrel Tweak" posted by EGA41T or wolverine

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Thats only if its the Neo engine,

Non-Neo (R33 S2) alot more work to get the Power FC working

Dezz what engine is going in?? and what loom you using??

nup,

plug and play

depends on the actual series build of the ecu itself. not the neo engine or non-neo stuff.

my feb 97 S1 ran with an R34 GTT power-fc. plus the secret squirrel trick

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nup,

plug and play

depends on the actual series build of the ecu itself. not the neo engine or non-neo stuff.

my feb 97 S1 ran with an R34 GTT power-fc. plus the secret squirrel trick

i don't think so.....

1st the injectors r in the wrong way for a feb 97(ALL S1 stagea need mods done to work!!) have studied for 6 weeks about this!

Dezz if you need any info pm me.

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i don't think so.....

1st the injectors r in the wrong way for a feb 97(ALL S1 stagea need mods done to work!!) have studied for 6 weeks about this!

Dezz if you need any info pm me.

sir

I can assure you it depends on the ecu model and NOT the neo or non-neo engines

due to differences in ecu models there are differences in loom wiring

series 1 has 3 or 4 different ecu's, some work with the power-fc others need more configuring. mine was pretty much plug and play

yes, certainly other mods are required to get a S1 and a R34 GTT P-fc to work.

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S1 stagea came with the S2 R33 rb25det (ALL OF THE S1 Stagea need mods for the R34 Gtt PFC to work!!)

S2 stagea came with the R34 neo rb25det (if the car is a manual, R34 Gtt PFC will work with the pin 51 trick)

But because its going into an R32 your A/c might not work, which is another problem with the PFC working on the S1 stagea (Needs mods to the PFC to make it work), could be the same for the R32?

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S1 stagea came with the S2 R33 rb25det (ALL OF THE S1 Stagea need mods for the R34 Gtt PFC to work!!)

S2 stagea came with the R34 neo rb25det (if the car is a manual, R34 Gtt PFC will work with the pin 51 trick)

But because its going into an R32 your A/c might not work, which is another problem with the PFC working on the S1 stagea (Needs mods to the PFC to make it work), could be the same for the R32?

yes all of the S1 stagea's come with the S2 R33 RB25, but tangles is correct in saying that in the S1 there were 3 different ecu pinout configurations used, they all are still the same S2 R33 ecu internals with the R34 style plug, but the pinouts vary between the three.

one of the configurations was pritty much the same as the R34/S2 stagea pinout. tangles must be lucky enough to have this one. also according to fast one of the S1 ecu variations was only used for about 3 months of production.

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Sounds like I'll have to get the engine number and put it into fast to find out what series this engine is...?

you cant run engine numbers through fast. but if you post up a pic of the engine there are a few sure ways to tell if its a neo engine or not, even if the plastic cover is missing.

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S1 stagea came with the S2 R33 rb25det (ALL OF THE S1 Stagea need mods for the R34 Gtt PFC to work!!)

S2 stagea came with the R34 neo rb25det (if the car is a manual, R34 Gtt PFC will work with the pin 51 trick)

But because its going into an R32 your A/c might not work, which is another problem with the PFC working on the S1 stagea (Needs mods to the PFC to make it work), could be the same for the R32?

Pretty sure its a neo...

Car is an auto by the way...auto will be built (not sure on specs) but definitely not going to be standard....

aircon/heater etc will probably be removed too...

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yes all of the S1 stagea's come with the S2 R33 RB25, but tangles is correct in saying that in the S1 there were 3 different ecu pinout configurations used, they all are still the same S2 R33 ecu internals with the R34 style plug, but the pinouts vary between the three.

one of the configurations was pritty much the same as the R34/S2 stagea pinout. tangles must be lucky enough to have this one. also according to fast one of the S1 ecu variations was only used for about 3 months of production.

Thats funny because i too have a Feb '97 Stagea (Same as Tangles) and i had to mod my Power FC to make it work.??

must be just my stagea then, i got all my info from the jap stagea service manual.

And the S1 service manual ecu pinout shows mine (09/96 - 08/97 engine harness no. 24011-0V100) same as mine and Tangles, but for some reason he didn't have to mod his Power FC??

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