S13/a31/c33 Type Front Suspensionbrakes Into R30 Questions

[R30-RB30DET]

Hey people I have not posted on here for a long time but damn SDU is pretty dead these days and the oldskool section is fully dead except for me and stagefumer lol.

My question is with the S13 style front end into R30 I know its been done a million times but recently my mate(who knows what hes doing and builds custom/modifyed cars for a living) said he measured up for another guy and rekons that it is not ideal at all like all wrong angles etc etc but knowing that its been done before makes me wonder what the hell hes on about! And I have some S14 5 stud/4 pot front hubs and S13 struts which I will put new aftermarket inserts in, weld on adjustable sleeves and put on adjustable camber tops. What I want to know is what have peolpe here used for bottom arms and caster rods on a HR30's?? and has anyone experienced anything bad? or is there a thread on here about this allready? I have dummyed them up onto my standard arms as showen in the pic bellow but it does not look right lol! and theres a couple of other pics of my turbo(MP T61 650HP), wastegate(46mm DSR), intercooler(600x300x100), engine bay seem welding/strengthening & other stuff aswell if anyones interested.

[ydr030]

sweet man love the rims. i use swm castor arms, like twice as thik as standard, so good., only cost bout $130 if i remember right

[OUTATIME]

looks like a sweet project man.

as 4 the s13 stuff i put in my dr pretty much just bolted in (coilovers). used stocko caster rods and control arms. all i did was machine out the camber tops cos u have 2 mount them backwards (if using s13 stuff. can just get r30 ones) and then get stuff all - camber adjustment. drifted it at mallala and had no problems and came up fine when got a wheel alignment.

think stock s13 struts come up bit short but if gonna make em adjustable shouldnt have a problem man..

[FJ20DR30]

Good luck with the build mate looks like it will be a very cool car!

i want to do this to my DR30 Coupe so ill keep an eye on this

i cant help you on this, but i do have a dr30 sedan in NZ with rear brake cables and etc if you still want them? pm me!

Cheers Marc

[skybt1]

how did you go with the s14 hubs? what do you plan to do for the rear 5 stud conversion?

i used s13 hubs and coilovers with all other suspension items standard r30 bits.

[FJ20DR30]

i used s13 hubs and coilovers with all other suspension items standard r30 bits.

Sorry to jack the thread ..

Are you saying that you remove the little stub type mount (with vertical strut mounts standard R30 strut mount) from the bottom arm and then put a bottom stub axel (With Horizontal strut bolt holes from an S13) into the hole in the R30 bottom arm then simply get the S13 strut mount it to s13 the stub axel and modify the top hats?

Does what im saying make sense?

If so how is the geometry after doing so?

Marc

[DR JOSH]

Standard s13 struts will be way too low, my s13 coilovers are pretty much wound up at max height and my car still sits fairly damn low.

[FJ20DR30]

Standard s13 struts will be way too low, my s13 coilovers are pretty much wound up at max height and my car still sits fairly damn low.

^That being said can those mounts on the bottom control arms be swapped? Remove Dr30 put in S13 no machining ?

Thanks for your help

Edited June 2, 2009 by FJ20DR30

[R34]

I was warned off doing this conversion due to introduced problems with bump steer.

I've just stayed with new koni inserts and will get the DR30 struts converted to adjustible platform once the car is licensed.

[stagefumer11]

I was warned off doing this conversion due to introduced problems with bump steer.

I've just stayed with new koni inserts and will get the DR30 struts converted to adjustible platform once the car is licensed.

isnt just down to the steering linkage angle.. There are some s13 tirerod ends (aftermarket) that flip the atachment point to the top of the linkage arm.. Eliminating bump steer

[R30-RB30DET]

Haha wish those rims were mine but the are not unfortunatly there off my mates 180SX 18x9.5 Work Meisters but I will get something similar when shes nearly driving, FJ20DR30 thanks will PM you in a min, for a start I will just get the front 5 stud so I can get some nice wheels on there and because I have a shitload of 4 stud skid/drift wheels so gota use them up first then will do the back as thats way easyer to do as theres like 3 ways ya can do it and I have to get a expencive double caliper mount made for 2pot GTS25T calipers for the hydrolic hand brake and subaru leone front calipers for foot brake and cable parking handbrake, and yea bumbsteer is only to do with steering arm angle and what stagefumer said is what I will be doing anyway but I will be using a S13/A31/C33 steering rack most likley because the R30 steering box is a shocker and as for it being low well that is one of my biggest aims is to have it as low as its still able to be driven properly. Anyone got any pics of there setups ?

[skybt1]

Sorry to jack the thread ..

Are you saying that you remove the little stub type mount (with vertical strut mounts standard R30 strut mount) from the bottom arm and then put a bottom stub axel (With Horizontal strut bolt holes from an S13) into the hole in the R30 bottom arm then simply get the S13 strut mount it to s13 the stub axel and modify the top hats?

Does what im saying make sense?

If so how is the geometry after doing so?

Marc

thats exactly what i did.

the guys that do the wheel alignment didnt mention anything about geometry to me.

The car drives fine and steers fine.

[Silent Shadow]

all this info is applicable to my C210 yes??

[blue 32]

Standard s13 struts will be way too low, my s13 coilovers are pretty much wound up at max height and my car still sits fairly damn low.

did you have to modify the s13 coilovers to fit or did they go straight in. if modifying is needed is it able to be performed by anyone with a few tool skills.