Ingall is a TOOL!

[Smiley]

Looks like its all come to a close finally

http://www.cams.com.au/content.asp?PageID=...le&ObjectID=317

[dAVE]

well i read everything but the last few posts by Roy, but im sure it will be more of the same.

I would just like to say I think Ingal's a bit of a tool, but Skaife had the major fault here. Neither of them should have dont what they did - but on the day Skaife was the bigger tool. I have met skaife many times and is a good bloke, but boy he shits me on TV... hes such a girl... he whines about everything.

and on another Russel Tool Ingal note, who remembers race 1 from Surfers. Russels pit crew let him out right in front of Murphy, creating contact. Long story short, Ingal blasted Murphy for being selfish with his race wins! Thats when I decided i no longer like him.

haha

[dAVE]

As far as Skaife being smart and spending millions on a team, well, I want to see the cheque that was written. I suspect he is owner only for a nominal fee under an "arrangement".

wouldnt be suprised to see a red lion logo on the top left hand corner of the cheque

[PRO_32]

Just saw this thread and was totally surprised by all this Ingall bashing, I say good on him. I wouldnt let Skaife bully me around on a racetrack either. "Rubbings Racing" This is what motorsports about hard driving and controversy, (just a simpfification dont tell me there's more to it than that I KNOW).

Afterall we all here talking about it and thats a good thing.

Even swerving at skaife on the next lap through it was just a gesture not like he wanted to run him down, Ingall knew skaife shouldnt have been there next to the track and I bet in hindsight so did Skaife.

Skaife is a bitch.

ps. FORDS killed it this year. Most respect to Ambrose

Oh and Murphy's a true Holden driver,

[GTRgeoff]

So ultimately the finding is that Ingall is wrong and Skaife wears no blame for his part.

Thankyou, Cretins Against Motor Sport (CAMS). I thinke the stewards need some time on track to stay current.

Mind you Ingall was charged with bringing the sport into disrepute - really? A class that is so obviously a farce?

Yes Roy, we need to see the end of large wings and reduce tyre size/adhesion. But also remain realistic as far as divergance from the stock motor car.

[Duncan]

actually skaife only appealed the bringing the sport for brining the sport into disrupute...both he and Ingall are still guilty re the on track incident.

I think its a disgrace the skaife was let off on appeal...thats saying its OK to ignore safety marshalls and stand on the track during a race...

[Roy]

well i read everything but the last few posts by Roy, but im sure it will be more of the same.

Have i been talking too much :Oops:

Heard some good news the other day, Cameron McConville has got a drive for GRM, heres to hoping there a few more teams join HRT, Kmart & SBR in the winners circle!

[GTRgeoff]

Duncan, thanks for the update. It wasn't clear on the CAMS site.

Roy, never too much, and I'm with you on that.

[Duncan]

yeah, also young winterbottom's moved into the big game afterall, racing with larkham's team.....he'll have a tough couple of years ahead...

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[Roy]

What are ppls thoughts of Dumbrell, i know its tough call to expect too much, but i think Winterbottom showed he may perhaps be a notch or two above Dumbrell.

What are the chances of Larry dumping him for say Mezera... i have noticed Larry hasnt been so supportive of Dumrell late in the year when Dumbrells performances have been questioned, id love to Mezera get a good seat alongside Richards.

[Clint32]

Dumbrell has the cash behind him and thats the only reason he still has a seat, but i dont think he will last much longer unlett he improves big time.

I think winterbottom will make a big impression this year as well, i dont think it will take long before he starts to beat bargs and while the team wont allow him to win races it will provide some good experience when he moves back to stone bros

[Smiley]

I think winterbottom will have a big impact 3 or 4 races in no doubt about him being a big talent. I dont think Dumbrell will stay in much longer if he doesnt start showing some results ie you would want to be confident enough to put him in the same car as steven richards for sandown/bathurst. The person I was most impressed with and who may have been a real contender if he had a VY was Rick Kelly. I think he will do well next year as well.

As for the Skaife being let off for bringing the sport into disrepute I thought he was appealing the careless driving decision or was that the running out on the track? if it was the running out on the track im against it. If it was the driving I'm for it. hope that made sense.

[Smiley]

Just checked the original charges ( http://www.cams.com.au/content.asp?PageID=...le&ObjectID=299) against the lasted finding and Skaife did not appeal the staying on the track incident and Ingall did not appeal the swerving at skaife incident (if it was indeed that) he appealed the bring the sport into disrepute charge.

[Parag0n]

Ingall and Ambrose are champs, There the best drivers out on the field that I've seen in a long time, Nuff said.

[Skyline n Monaro]

Lets just settle this, they're both tools

Ingall has drivng technique which is to push people off the road, whilst Skaife thinks he owns the championship.

None of them are anywhere near the class of Peter Brock.

Ingall and Ambrose are champs, There the best drivers out on the field that I've seen in a long time, Nuff said.

Whilst I must admit, I am a little jelous with Ford getting Ambrose, but with Ingall, well you can keep him, there are heaps more blokes in the series that are better then him

[Duncan]

Yeah sorry, I was wrong way round. Skaife appealed the on track fine not hte brining the sport into disrepute charge.

Saw a funny quote from Ingall in Motorsport news "If I was trying to hit him - they'd still be pulling him out of the radiator"

lol

The young guys who've won konica and then hit the big time always have the same problem....everyone there is as quick as them....they may be v similar cars but it is a huge step up. And the problem is if they haven;t won the championship in 4-5 years everyone thinks they've failed...and there are 4 or 5 new young quick guys coming thru instead.

BTW it was still clearly skaife's fault...and nothing more than a racing incident

[Roy]

BTW it was still clearly skaife's fault...and nothing more than a racing incident

In my best Joe Pesci - Goodfellas/Casino voice "Why you no good...!!!" :argue:

Watching some old races the other day, Tander, Todd Kelly and i think Weber or was it Ambrose (i watched too many... including the old F1 GP meet where Weber won the FF race tat was full of carnage) and some other young whipper snappers were all racing in FF race, i think it was a '97 event when Tander won the series.

I like looking back at old FF series and looking at some of the match ups like Lowndes, McConville and Steve Richards etc etc. Just think Mezera beat his teammate Alain Menu in the England FF series, and was placed ahead of Eddie Irvine in the championship! Kind of like where are they now!