5ky Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Hey guys, i want to lower my car, so the gap between the tyres and guard dissapears,.... basically i also want ride comfort, and I have heard instead of getting coilovers, the matching springs and shocks would be my best option. What would be the best bang for buck setup? Im not rich, so something cheap would be nice, and i also have ride in a car with stock shocks and lowered springs, and i do not want that ttype of setup, as its very bouncy... any idea guys Cheers, Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradsm87 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 You won't get it as low as you want with replacement shock/spring combo. Best bet is Tein Mono Flex with softer springs. What car is it for? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ky Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 mono flex are expensive, lol about 2-3k just for that its for a r34 gtt Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alr33x Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 ive got hsd tt's pretty cheap but cant complain in my r33 its lower then your wanting im about 70mm off the ground to give you an idea and i find it quite comfortable, more so then the tein shock/spring combo i had and previous coilovers. if you want bang for buck the hsd or bc are your best options. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ryan_ Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Can you give us a $ value for coil/shock to work with? Have you done any other suspension work? Does the budget allow for camber correction? You might want to add poly castor bushes for the extra castor and the new stiffer bush, and some stiffer swaybars(combat body roll, which when using a low spring rate is important IMO). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reNEGaDe88 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Soft and low = chopped springs. Costs at much as an angle grinder disc Nah. I reckon just get some custom king springs. They cost like 300$ a pair. And you can customize the spring rate and height to suit you. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradsm87 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 U spend all the money on a great car like an r34 GTT now u don't wanna spend 2.5k on quality parts? Just get a Commodore man. I just don't understand why ppl with nice cars nearly all just rice em out with cheap tacky crap. If u do wanna do it right, Mono flex with 5.5kg/mm front and 5kg/mm rear would be ideal. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradsm87 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 springs that low on stock or stock replacement type shocks will just be bang bang bangin on bump stops. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
08r3308 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 ive got hsd tt's pretty cheap but cant complain in my r33 its lower then your wanting im about 70mm off the ground to give you an idea and i find it quite comfortable, more so then the tein shock/spring combo i had and previous coilovers.if you want bang for buck the hsd or bc are your best options. i got hsd too and they are perfect for what i use the car for. they handle good and are quite comfy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ryan_ Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Soft and low = chopped springs. Costs at much as an angle grinder disc Nah. I reckon just get some custom king springs. They cost like 300$ a pair. And you can customize the spring rate and height to suit you. or brown springs in thomastown vic will do custom for 260 a SET, 130pr. 2.5k is bilstein/eibach coilover territory... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5009947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snappy_ Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 mono flex are expensive, lol about 2-3k just for thatits for a r34 gtt James still has he's mono flexes. buy them, you know there under 2000kms old. mates rates Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5010110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyr33 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 When I was looking at replacing my setup with shocks/springs, I enquired at a few places. The Bilsteins were about $1200 I think from somewhere in NSW. Koni's were about $1400. But you can get some cheaper Coilovers for about that price. If your not in a hurry look around for people selling their old parts. I ended up buying some APEXI shocks from a guy on here and TEIN springs which were $300. The TEIN springs lowered it about 20ish mm. Would of liked it about 30mm (thats what their quoted as) but still there is only a small gap between tyre and guard now. The shocks and springs seem to match quite well as the ride is very good and the handling is fantastic. You don't always need to spend big money on quality parts, if your not in a hurry then just wait and search around. You might get lucky like I did, one mans trash is another mans treasure Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5010522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l_uk3y Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Maybe a set of Aus spec Tein Super streets might be suitable? Not going to be super soft but they don't have crazy spring rates either. And you will get the height problem solved without being bone jarring. Not super expensive (not budget rubbish though either). Luke Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5010534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ryan_ Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 The TEIN springs lowered it about 20ish mm. Would of liked it about 30mm (thats what their quoted as) but still there is only a small gap between tyre and guard now. Stock springs were prob sagged. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5010535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery_kid Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Just get a Commodore man. I just don't understand why ppl with nice cars nearly all just rice em out with cheap tacky crap. yep, half the reason i read these forums is to rag on the 'has to be cheap' crew you can't have your cake and eat it, these HSD coilovers and what not people are talking about are shit and will not give you any ride comfort. why you're so worried about ride comfort in a sports car i don't understand. but steer clear of those cheap chinese/korean copies. Edited December 31, 2009 by mystery_kid Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5011212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l_uk3y Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 yep, half the reason i read these forums is to rag on the 'has to be cheap' crew you can't have your cake and eat it, these HSD coilovers and what not people are talking about are shit and will not give you any ride comfort. why you're so worried about ride comfort in a sports car i don't understand. but steer clear of those cheap chinese/korean copies. Not everyone has a budget for $2000 + coilovers. Not to mention if they are only looking cruising/street use and not circuit use they are wasting money getting "racey" suspension when just a simple spring and shock combo will suit the cars actual purpose better. Theres nothing wrong with being cheap when the result will be more suitable for the task at hand. If your ragging on the "has to be cheap" crew that are SO cheap they cut springs to lower the car as well as all the other very nasty "cheap mods" that are just purely unsafe as a result. Different story, because they bring us all down. If you get a set of lowered springs. Make sure you get matching shockers to suit. Cost a fraction more. But will be much nicer. This will still be much cheaper then a full set of coil overs and give a nicer ride. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5011285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ryan_ Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Not everyone has a budget for $2000 + coilovers. Not to mention if they are only looking cruising/street use and not circuit use they are wasting money getting "racey" suspension when just a simple spring and shock combo will suit the cars actual purpose better. Theres nothing wrong with being cheap when the result will be more suitable for the task at hand.If your ragging on the "has to be cheap" crew that are SO cheap they cut springs to lower the car as well as all the other very nasty "cheap mods" that are just purely unsafe as a result. Different story, because they bring us all down. If you get a set of lowered springs. Make sure you get matching shockers to suit. Cost a fraction more. But will be much nicer. This will still be much cheaper then a full set of coil overs and give a nicer ride. Bilsteins, 1100 or so, Tein S Tech ~300 That will give ride quality. Completely slamming a car won't give factory ride quality without spending a bit more money. You can have stiff and well controlled ride, but it isn't always cheap. Why do you want to go what is possibly illegally low, on crap quality gear? Stock shocks and lowered springs was either badly matched rates or blown stock shocks at a guess. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5011326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradsm87 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Not everyone has a budget for $2000 + coilovers. Not to mention if they are only looking cruising/street use and not circuit use they are wasting money getting "racey" suspension when just a simple spring and shock combo will suit the cars actual purpose better. Theres nothing wrong with being cheap when the result will be more suitable for the task at hand.If your ragging on the "has to be cheap" crew that are SO cheap they cut springs to lower the car as well as all the other very nasty "cheap mods" that are just purely unsafe as a result. Different story, because they bring us all down. If you get a set of lowered springs. Make sure you get matching shockers to suit. Cost a fraction more. But will be much nicer. This will still be much cheaper then a full set of coil overs and give a nicer ride. In this example, the person asking the question wants the car lower than a normal spring/shock combo will allow without hitting bump stops. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5011503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ryan_ Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 In this example, the person asking the question wants the car lower than a normal spring/shock combo will allow without hitting bump stops. He also wants comfort. Cheap, Low, Comfy. Dunno what Type Flex are worth, but some in ~6/5 same as my 32 would fit the bill(yet i run mine high) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5012010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
08r3308 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 yep, half the reason i read these forums is to rag on the 'has to be cheap' crew you can't have your cake and eat it, these HSD coilovers and what not people are talking about are shit and will not give you any ride comfort. why you're so worried about ride comfort in a sports car i don't understand. but steer clear of those cheap chinese/korean copies. have been in skyline with hsd coilovers installed??? so now the cheap ass crew is pple who buy hsd and chinese /korean copies?? then you talking about half of these forums everyone has different opinions and liking when it comes to ride comfort , imo my hsd do the job i wanted my suspension to do and are perfect ride not too bouncy, not harsh and they have been fine for 1 yr now. that is the reason i have suggested hsd is because of experience i had with them. like ryan rb said theres other options other than coil overs. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/301805-what-sort-of-setup-suits-me-if-i-want-comfy-and-lowered/#findComment-5012040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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