First message from a nooB

[Villainous_J]

heya all,

this is my first post on the forum and I gotsa question. I'm thinking of treating myself to another car soon, after more than a year of pleasure with my celica I need something that'll take commodores on the straights as well as the curves (yes I should know better than to take on even a measly commodore in a 14 year old celica...)

I've narrowed it down to a 200SX or a R33 GTS N/A (best to get a handle for the basics first then work upto a turbo)

any suggestions on both with regards to price, insurance, performance and general drivability wise? I'm not looking to mod, but I do want a quick car for my money

thanks in advance,

happy driving

[Merli]

You do realise that 200SXs (s14 and s15s) are all turbo in Australia right?

If you wanted a quick car, stay away from the R33 GTS, and go for the 200SX.

[Villainous_J]

You do realise that 200SXs (s14 and s15s) are all turbo in Australia right?

If you wanted a quick car, stay away from the R33 GTS, and go for the 200SX.

Yeah, I know they're turbo, but I wasn't expecting a big performance diff between the 200SX with the small turbo and the 2.5 GTS (or am I mistaken? pardon the ignorance)

I assume the R33 is slightly cheaper both in terms of insurance and price?

[(B1) MR_fanny]

ur mistaken:D

[paulr33]

Once you get an import, the difference for non turbo vs turbo is like $200 or thereabouts. If you get an import, may as well get a turbo'd one.

[Merli]

Yeah, I know they're turbo, but I wasn't expecting a big performance diff between the 200SX with the small turbo and the 2.5 GTS (or am I mistaken? pardon the ignorance)

I assume the R33 is slightly cheaper both in terms of insurance and price?

the 200SX turbo isn't that small... It's a T28 sized item, and even a smaller turbo adds a tremendous amount of power and torque...

The 200SX is also a much lighter car than the R33 Skyline too.

If those are the two cars you've decided you're looking at, I can tell you this:

The 200SX beats the R33 GTS in EVERY aspect. Handling, power, braking, driveability. Also, being a locally sold car, the 200SX's insurance doesn't fall under the "grey import" category that insurance companies hate, so the difference between that and the R33 GTS shouldn't be that much.

[Jetdat]

yeah jump into the deep end and get over with

get yourself a GTS-t or better still get a R32 GTR and FLY!!

[dale]

200sx r quick compared to non turbo r33

get a turbo 33 if u want a mad car.

[Ryan D]

Dont listen to these turboheadz

Get yourself a nice R33 GTS, they are porn looking animals. And they got enough boot, and later you have options, and building up a car yourself, is much more satisfying

[Villainous_J]

HAHA at last, an N/A fan to support me!

Any thoughts on the 4-door? I've always wanted a sleeper.

And any ideas how much I'll be up for insurance? I'll be 22 and a rating 1 next year (after 3 years of driving my little cars, I bloody well should be a rating 1)

[paulr33]

insurance for 4 door = not sure, call up aami etc..

insurance got gtst = 3k probably, general figure

i dont think its that much less if its a GTS

the main figure of the insurance component is cos its an import. 80% cos its an import, %20 cos its a turbo.

I've always found when getting insurance quotes for turbo vs non turbo and its an import is jack all difference

[calvintys]

<< I need something that'll take commodores on the straights >>

What do you mean .. an V8 or V6..

GTS N/A want to bet a V8... you must be dreaming. You need turbo for V8.

why dont get yourself a GTIR... it is better on every single aspect.

[Spook's_Skyline]

i use and recommend 4 doors

i wouldnt bother with non turbo though

in for a penny, in for a pound

[Red Reaper]

The other day i destroyed a V8 Vp Commodore by a good 15m off a set of lights

he had 4 guys in his car and i had 3 people in my stock as a rock R33, he had NOTHING Skylines Rule

[Red Reaper]

Thats the power of a Skyline R33 GTS25t