Buying A Skyline With Suspect Wound Back Ks

[TUF250]

Hi folks, I am looking at buying this skyline which I believe has been wound back in ks. It is immaculate, beautiful paint, interior, had a machanic check it over inc comp test and its come up great.

the car has 86,500 on the clock and drives as if it does (no logbooks of course!)

on the timing cover it has a silver sticker on the timing cover that says 100,000ks with some japenese writing, does this mean the timing belt was done at 100 or due at 100?

the car is auction grade 4.

what sort of milage do these things get wound back when imported? 10,000, 20,000 or as much as 100,000? i will buy it based on its condition, everything is great but im trying to work out weather it needs a timing belt or not?

ps im looking to do a full service, are latinum ngks the go? what about the nulon 10w40 synthetic oil with a drift filter? excuse the silly question about servicing but have always been a falcon man so still new to the lines!

thanks!

[pistol-pete]

it would help knowing what year and model it is

[Nic_A31]

The sticker means it has had its 100'000km service, the mileage at which that service was done should be handwritten on the sticker. Not uncommon for alot of Japanese exports to have their 100k km service done 10-15k early.

If it's running all sweet, in immaculate condition, and has good compression test results then that's all you really need.

Air con still working is another sign of genuine low KMs

[lachlanw]

is the sticker written in pen or is it printed from a computer

thel all have a silver sticker on the cover with a few japanese characters . it means DO the cam belt at 100000

[TUF250]

sorry mate forgot to add that, its a 1997 series 2 r33 manual gts-t

well the aircon is very cold so thats a good sign.

the sticker on the timing cover is silver, about 5-6cm wide by 2cm tall. it is printed and has soem japenese writing and 100,000 printed on it. this means that maybe the car does have genuine ks? (that is if this is a sticker to guide you on when to do the belt? the car is otherwise immaculate! honestly paint, interior, driveline... perfect so maybe it is the case.

so basically this sticker means its due at 100? is it safe to leave it to 100 or should it be done early? (note it has 86 onthe clock at the moment)

also it is a 40th anniversary M- spec. does anyone know what makes and m spec or 40th ann. edition different to the rest?

thanks in advance!!

[mark660]

had the same sticker when i got mine means its due at 100

[pistol-pete]

sounds like theyre genuine to me although without books youre never gonna be 100%

but to be honest, if it still runs sweet, then k's arent really an issue imo

[WYTSKY]

Yeah, doesn't mean anything related to the age or wear of the car, its just a reminder to change it. I bought my car at similar amount of kms and got the importer to change the belt, theres no harm in changing it early but alot of bad things can happen if it snaps..... something you should look into doing soon.

[Brandon]

Seriously, the only thing I would look out for to check if the Ks are geniune is

1) if dials line up (100% you'll be able to tell)

2) engine condition (hard to tell because of history on how its been driven but so long as it's good, doesnt matter)

3) wear and tear (again, hard to tell because of history. You wouldnt know how rough the previous owner is or if he/she got shitloads of rings on his fingers which explains the wearing on gear knob and steering wheel).

So realistically, you can only be certain about no.1. And as mentioned, even with logbooks you'll cant be 100% sure too.

[TUF250]

ok that sounds great. so should the belt go another 14,000 until the 100,000? or is it recommended to change it early given the cars/belts physical age?

any idea on what it being an 'm-spec' or '40 anniversary edition' means?

[TUF250]

also is there any brand of belt/tensioner that is recommended as being a better one? what roughly would i be expecting to pay so i dont get ripped off

thanks!

[BASHO]

also is there any brand of belt/tensioner that is recommended as being a better one? what roughly would i be expecting to pay so i dont get ripped off

thanks!

If you aint sure do the timing belt, idler pulleys and waterpump all at the same time , just on age they should be done.

As a note if you just do the belt you will, in short order, find you are back doing the idler pulleys and shortly after that, woops, back again doing the water pump.

If you don't intend to flog the crap out of you car mercilessly the Nissan OE parts are as good as most and far superior to many aftermarket parts and frequently more cost efficient, though you will find that you can get OE timing belt kits of Fleebay with genuine parts for less money (by a fair amount) than you would pay from an authorised dealer

Theres a post on here its somewhere in FAQs , do a search, that lists all the stuff that should be done on the 80 and 100000 ks sevice , it's not for the faint hearted of wallet if you do everything and I'm saying that from experiance , there are 28 basic items not all of which involve money for parts-- ah hem.

I'm just at the last two items on this list which are the 02 sensor = $260.00 and the internal air/pollen filters = $260.

Edited May 8, 2010 by BASHO

[mad082]

Seriously, the only thing I would look out for to check if the Ks are geniune is

1) if dials line up (100% you'll be able to tell)

2) engine condition (hard to tell because of history on how its been driven but so long as it's good, doesnt matter)

3) wear and tear (again, hard to tell because of history. You wouldnt know how rough the previous owner is or if he/she got shitloads of rings on his fingers which explains the wearing on gear knob and steering wheel).

So realistically, you can only be certain about no.1. And as mentioned, even with logbooks you'll cant be 100% sure too.

that doesn't mean that someone (possibly the importer or even back in japan) hasn't bought a lower km cluster and stuck that in.

to be honest, just ignore the kms as there is probably a 70% chance they aren't genuine. judge the car by what condition it is in and then if you buy it get the timing belt done just to be on the safe side. for all you know the car could have 130,000kms on it and still be on the original belt.