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I used to have a gas system that used to freeze up and it was cause there wasn't enought coolant in the car......I would re fill it and the converter would like instantly de frost itself......

as GBLOCK said, J30 maxima ...

Nah the thing is it freezes up when i start it in the morning if started on gas, start it on petrol, let it run till it's all nice and warm and then flick it to gas then the converter doesnt freeze up and runs fine..

Checked the coolant, its fine still right up at the top... bled the coolant each time i changed it...

GBLOCK: Yea i'll probably take it there, but unless theres better recommendations for that... From what i've seen good gas guys are relatively hard to come by.. LOL

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..I have never had this freezing problem, in 4 years..weird...

Id say ,Just start it on petrol then if that works..I know a few people who do the same..Its good to run some petrol through them anyways...If it doesnt run well on regular use high octane..Works better cause timing is usually advanced on gas..Another trick was pouring hot water (warm tap water will do) on it but thats a hassle..

Wouldnt bother trying to service it as I doubt it would make any difference, must be an old system is it?

Unless maybe the water line is full of corrosion, clean it out maybe

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Arthtur T3 - well the gas system is around 4 years old, but has never done this - only recently started doing this... to be more precise when it got cold... yea i always would run it on petrol too - bout a quarter of a tank of petrol to every tank or so of gas and open her up... so i dunno LOL...

STATUS - but how does that affect it at all? if that was the case wouldnt it be like that in summer as well? and if its plumbed in wrong, wouldn't it freeze even after the car is warm and i switch it over from petrol to gas?

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the converter is plumbed into the cooling system wrong

Would appear you have seen this before then..

Alot of people have this problem, i thought it was just older systems but 4 years is newer than mine...

So im guessing your onto something :)

So would that mean its not flowing through the convertor before thermostat opens.. Any flow would stop it from freezing and Once engine is warm Id think even the radiant heat would be enough to stop it from freezing..

*goes out in freezing cold to see how gas system is hooked up*

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