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im looking at buying a decent laptop in the next few weeks and after searching around and tossing up between a few different systems, i just wanted some advice on what you guys think..

im buying it mainly for music photos and net, but sometimes i see a pc game i get excited about and dont want it to run slow with a good game, in saying that if its a really demanding game i dont mind running medium settings.

the laptop in mind is the new

HP envy 14 beats edition

Operating systemGenuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-biteditProcessorIntel® Core i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHzeditGraphics card1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 Graphics [HDMI] - For Quad Core ProcessorseditMemory6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)editHard drive500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive ProtectioneditOffice softwareMicrosoft® Office Starter 2010editPrimary battery8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 3.75 hours of battery life +++editDisplay14.5" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView Infinity LED Display (1366x768)editPrimary optical driveSuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support (Slot Load)editPersonalizationHP TrueVision HD WebcameditNetworkingIntel Wireless-N Card with BluetootheditKeyboardRed Backlit KeyboardeditIncluded AccessoriesBeats by Dr. Dre Solo Headphones From Monster® with ControlTalkeditIncluded Software BundleAdobe® Photoshop® Elements 8 & Adobe Premiere® Elements 8editYour additional options:Click edit to modify. NOTE: These items are in stock and will ship immediately.HP Care Pack ServicesHP 3-year Care Pack House Call Service with Accidental Damage Protection for Select HP Envy Laptop (with 2-yr warranty)Operating system - win 7 prem 64-bit

Proceessor - core i7-7200qm quad coreOperating systemGenuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-biteditProcessorIntel® Core i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHzeditGraphics card1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 Graphics [HDMI] - For Quad Core ProcessorseditMemory6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)editHard drive500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive ProtectioneditOffice softwareMicrosoft® Office Starter 2010editPrimary battery8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 3.75 hours of battery life +++editDisplay14.5" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView Infinity LED Display (1366x768)editPrimary optical driveSuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support (Slot Load)editPersonalizationHP TrueVision HD WebcameditNetworkingIntel Wireless-N Card with BluetootheditKeyboardRed Backlit KeyboardeditIncluded AccessoriesBeats by Dr. Dre Solo Headphones From Monster® with ControlTalkeditIncluded Software BundleAdobe® Photoshop® Elements 8 & Adobe Premiere® Elements 8editYour additional options:Click edit to modify. NOTE: These items are in stock and will ship immediately.HP Care Pack ServicesHP 3-year Care Pack House Call Service with Accidental Damage Protection for Select HP Envy Laptop (with 2-yr warranty)Operating systemGenuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-biteditProcessorIntel® Core i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHzeditGraphics card1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 Graphics [HDMI] - For Quad Core ProcessorseditMemory6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)editHard drive500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive ProtectioneditOffice softwareMicrosoft® Office Starter 2010editPrimary battery8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 3.75 hours of battery life +++editDisplay14.5" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView Infinity LED Display (1366x768)editPrimary optical driveSuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support (Slot Load)editPersonalizationHP TrueVision HD WebcameditNetworkingIntel Wireless-N Card with BluetootheditKeyboardRed Backlit KeyboardeditIncluded AccessoriesBeats by Dr. Dre Solo Headphones From Monster® with ControlTalkeditIncluded Software BundleAdobe® Photoshop® Elements 8 & Adobe Premiere® Elements 8editYour additional options:Click edit to modify. NOTE: These items are in stock and will ship immediately.HP Care Pack ServicesHP 3-year Care Pack House Call Service with Accidental Damage Protection for Select HP Envy Laptop (with 2-yr warranty) processor(1.6ghz, 6mb l3 cache) with turbo boost to 2.8ghz

graphics card - 1gb ATI mobility radeon HD 5650 graphics (HDMI) - for quad core processor

memory - 6GB DDR3 system memory (2 dimm)

Hard drive - 500gb 7200rpm with hard drive protection (is it worth going a 260gb ssd drive for an extra $600 aud? i dont think i will need it but is this easy to upgrade in a year or so when they loose some value?)

office 2010

14.5"high def hp brightview led display (1366x768) is this low?

primary optical drive supermulti 8x dvd+/-r/rw with double layer support

hp truevision hd webcam

keyboard red backlight

acc - beats head phones

inc software - adobe,photoshop, elements 8 and adobe premier

3 year extended warranty

all up its going to cost about $1800usd or around $1900 or so aud

I dont really know much about computers so i wanted to get some info from you guys about the above product or maybe some different options for the same price range, or max $2100 au.

also im buying it in the states and it seems to be a little cheaper there. i would also be interestede in a 13" but it would have to be a better package to sacrifice the extra inch and 15" would be my max. iv read abit about the vaio z series but for the same sort of specs its around the 2300 usd. what do you all think?

thanks alot guys.

sounds like its going to be a pretty heavy laptop, the i7 was designed as a desktop processor as opposed to a laptop. Price seems fairly good though. I rate HP's pretty high imo, try and stick with their pro/elitebook series though (can be a bit expensive sometimes), they have a unibody made out of magnesium, very solid laptop.

specs seem reasonable though, smallish screen though for gaming? depends how portable you want it.

my 0.2

need it to be a laptop, im traveling 9 months out of the year, it doesnt have to be too light either as once i get of the plane im straight home.

theres pretty much 2 other laptops i was looking at

alienwares m15x, but i heard that they have terrible support and reliability (the reports i saw where all old, is this still true for the new machines?

and maybe the mac bok pro, the specs im looking at on the mac book are

core i5

4gb ram

500gb hard drive @7200 rpm

1580x1050 hi res antiglare screen

Intel HD Graphics

NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M with 256MB

this comes in at around $2100usd wich is a little over my limit, also removing the high res screen and downgrading to a 320gb hard drive at 5200rpm reduces the price to $1800usd but those otion boxes are painfully addictive hehe

my question is will i notice the difference between the above computer and the macbook with what i need it for?

and how would the macbook pro i have chosen run games?

also will most games work on the mack book?

thanks for the info but i really need help. cheers

Is it just me or is stuff listed twice in that blob of text in the first post?

Either way, format it better - and i will have a read.

ATM its just too messy mate and hurting my eyes.

I notices briefly a SSD wasnt listed, for a laptop in todays day and age, SSD's are the only choice IMO.

yah sorry mate i know what you mean, when i tried cutting and pasting it didnt show up on my screen so i wrote a few points down. then when i posted it it came up with that that blob. anyway

HP envy 14 beats edition

Operating system - Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-biteditProcessorIntel® Core™ i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHzedit

Graphics card - 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650 Graphics [HDMI] - For Quad Core Processors

Memory - 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)editHard drive500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection

Office softwareMicrosoft® Office Starter 2010

Primary battery - 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 3.75 hours of battery life +++

Display - 14.5" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView Infinity LED Display (1366x768)

Primary optical driveSuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support (Slot Load)

Personalization - HP TrueVision HD WebcameditNetworkingIntel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth

Keyboard - Red Backlit Keyboard

Included AccessoriesBeats™ - by Dr. Dre™ Solo™ Headphones From Monster® with ControlTalk™

Included Software BundleAdobe® Photoshop® Elements 8 & Adobe Premiere® Elements 8

hope that helps

Bear in mind when gaming, you'll be lucky yo get 45mins out of it before it shuts down.

A friend of mine with a i7 lappie & new GPU has similar issues.

30mins and it's pretty much flashing up warnings :P

Agree - HP is the better choice - you still want a 64GB SSD and maybe one 500GB HDD (HDD just for extra storage).

SSD's are night and day difference for laptops.

I'll be jamming one into my next PC build now they are coming down in price nicely :)

That said im not a fan of HP laptops - they pack their products with far to much spam/bloatware

I'd look to something form Toshiba personally in that price range and see if you can find something that comes close

Bear in mind when gaming, you'll be lucky yo get 45mins out of it before it shuts down.

A friend of mine with a i7 lappie & new GPU has similar issues.

30mins and it's pretty much flashing up warnings :)

That actually sounds decent LOL, my Asus G73 (i7 720Qm + 5870m) can only get 1.75 hours from max battery saving model, & I can't really game on battery power since both the CPU & GPU gets downclocked & won't go to normal speed till the A/C is plugged in.

That said im not a fan of HP laptops - they pack their products with far to much spam/bloatware

Nothing that a full reformat + reinstall won't fix :P

The 1st thing I do when I get a new laptop is do a reformat + clean reinstall.

no i havnt really thought of the asus, whats it like, havnt really been a fan of the look recently. also the only reason i thought of the apple was because a freind has one and recommended it highly for its features.

toshiba seems good so ill do some searching, and ill have a look at the new f series vaio. cheers

also the only reason i thought of the apple was because a freind has one and recommended it highly for its features.

With the current Apple laptops running the same hardware (usually intel i-something + Nvidia Geforce something) as the Windows based ones, I can't see what possible 'features' it has over the standard windows ones besides OSX... unless you like the whole Apple styling thing.

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