Turbo 180Sx ! Anyone Driven One?

[nismokid]

RB25DET into S1x = win.

enuff said.

[M.C Ren]

mate if your interested, iv got a red 2ltr 180sx for sale with 10g's in receipts, honestly nothing more can be done to the suspension, and its got a skyline brake setup on it aswell, s14 interior, genuine 105ks, it hardly gets driven, the previous owner done all the work to it and was building a drift car but he went overseas and needed the money. its got near new $1000 tyres on it, 17 white wheels, side skirts, rear pods, drift wing. not exactly sure but i think its got a kaaz diff, ill check the receipts and let you know.

but the motor is totally standard, never been boosted, its even got the standard head deck in it, it arrived in 02 and i am the second owner, its fully registered and i even have the import approval papers on the thing.

im after 7g's, beleive me i havnt put it up for sale yet, but its worth every penny. pm me if interested

also i owned an r33, number plates where (mspec2), check it out the plates on a search. it had a fair bit done to the suspension and brakes, although the 180 doesnt have anything on it compared to speed, the 180 out braked and out handled it any day of the week, but put the same mods i had on my skyline into my 180 and iv got a sneaking suspicioun that mspec 2 may have had her work cut out for her.

but nothing sounds like an rb with a straight through exhaust at full boost with a nice little flame coming out the back

as i said, pm me if interested

[mad082]

ahahaha, 'MSPEC' plates on a 33 gts-t. that still makes me laugh how many people get mixed up between M-spec (a version of the r34 GTR) and type M (a version of the r32 and r33 gts-t. not sure if it was also a model of the r34 gt-t)

[M.C Ren]

well it depends on how you determine it, i bought the car with the plates on it so it doesnt really bother me, but i see many for sale on japanese sites still saying mspec 2.

at the end of the day, type m or m spec. they both mean exactly the same thing, and mspec2 being a series 2 makes plenty of sence.

in saying it though, back in 2006, this car was a machine, so even if it had the plates poofter, on it, most people would have loved to have owned the thing.

ok ok maybe not poofter hehe but you get my drift

ps: a poofter in kazekstani is a female goat.

[robjay]

hey all,

Looking at buying a turbo Sr20det 180SX standard with exhaust,

Can anyone tell me what they go like?

how do they compare to a skyline turbo?

Cheers

Owned a 180sx auto for a number of years.

Stock 180 is not anything special, now own an r34 gtt - r34 wins hands down stock for stock (not sure about r33)

Found that the 180sx factory turbo prone to failure, broke it in 6 months or so.

Put some mods in, 3" exhaust, t28 and manual conversion (lightened flywheel) then it will haul ass & 180rwkw

At this point the car is way too tail happy and does not handle corners - in fact even stock 180, the first thing I did was loose tail up a curb. My r34 though has more power and yet It's grip is inspiring and loss of traction is forgiving.

[mad082]

Owned a 180sx auto for a number of years.

Stock 180 is not anything special, now own an r34 gtt - r34 wins hands down stock for stock (not sure about r33)

Found that the 180sx factory turbo prone to failure, broke it in 6 months or so.

Put some mods in, 3" exhaust, t28 and manual conversion (lightened flywheel) then it will haul ass & 180rwkw

At this point the car is way too tail happy and does not handle corners - in fact even stock 180, the first thing I did was loose tail up a curb. My r34 though has more power and yet It's grip is inspiring and loss of traction is forgiving.

the skyline turbo is much more prone to failure than the sr turbo. the sr turbos simply do the occasional oil seal. the rb turbos either do the oil seal, or have the exhaust wheel break into a million pieces.

also, is your r34 an auto as well? if not then that is a terrible comparison to compare an auto 180 to a manual skyline. that said, the auto s13's are an absolute slug compared to the manual ones, while an auto skyline isn't that much different to a manual one.

[Mr Eps]

y'know what i dont get???

marc.

i dont get marc. the guy is popular and considered a pretty cool guy on these forums... and dont get me wrong. i like him too...

...but i dont get how someone for YEARS has gotten by on a skylines forum - that HATES skylines. lol

anyway - my brother had one of the first 180sx's in perth - and i drove it and learned in it... it had a jap spec S15 turbo. big FMIC. boosted. pod filter, bov, and 3.5in turbo back

it was probably the fastest car i've ever driven...

would i own one? no.

180sx are like fking ROCKETS if you build them and tune them up right.

but outside of that...

they are basically a holden gemini with a jet engine glued to it.

there is no ABS. no trac control. no airbag. so active stability. no variable valve timing. no auto on auto off headlights. no adjustable intermittence of window wipers. no fog lights. no rain proof windscreen. no bi-xenon headlights. no digital climate control. no electric seats.

in a 180sx you get the following:

a 2 door hatch type coupe that could be likened to a mongoose on rohypnol.

180sx are quick. when done right.

they scream like a truck. and a very angry truck at that.

they're reliable, noooo not reliable as in "well built" reliable. but reliable as in... there's nothing on it that can go wrong in the first place.

if that's "your type of car" then go for it... personally i wouldn't have one!

pro tip:

(get an s15)

check out what supermade just did for TAS2011!!!

[ForceFedVL]

y'know what i dont get???

there is no ABS. no trac control. no airbag. so active stability. no variable valve timing. no auto on auto off headlights. no adjustable intermittence of window wipers. no fog lights. no rain proof windscreen. no bi-xenon headlights. no digital climate control. no electric seats.

The main reason I got the 180 is because of the first two points you stated, No ABS, IMO if you need ABS to not lock up you should not be driving, same goes for traction control, if you cant control the power you have, dont drive a powerful car, my 180 has vct, and the 180s do have adjustable intermittence and also digital cc.

[Mr Eps]

Calm down bra...

I'm just saying they're a very basic car!!! Even with your later model perks they're still basic... And personally my argument is in a hard track car no you don't need that stuff but as a daily commute, it's nice to have

And besides why so defensive??? I was saying I like them... Just that they're just featureless old but ridiculously fast cars. Chillax

[M.C Ren]

it doesnt seem like his upset mr elps, his just stating why he bought his car and that it does have climate control ect ect.

so i understand his message.

[Sarumatix]

AFAIK no 180s came with VCT, yes they have a black top engine, no it isn't VCT.

[Adnan r33]

heres my two sense worth guys:

iv owned both 180sx and r33 gtst and both were stock my 180 was a sr20det with fmic and the r33 was stock and if i had to pick one id take the r33 for looks/confort but just on the downn low the 180 might have been faster eppp.

[ForceFedVL]

Calm down bra...

I'm just saying they're a very basic car!!! Even with your later model perks they're still basic... And personally my argument is in a hard track car no you don't need that stuff but as a daily commute, it's nice to have

And besides why so defensive??? I was saying I like them... Just that they're just featureless old but ridiculously fast cars. Chillax

Not defensive at all, just stating, sorry if I needed to put a big to show we cool lol

AFAIK no 180s came with VCT, yes they have a black top engine, no it isn't VCT.

nah I know i got a neo in mine so it has it

[ali-turko]

dont need but would recommend 5 stud all round for the bigger brakes and wheel fitment, but like I said not a requirement, can use r33 rear hubs with handbrake setup and r33 cable, s14 front hubs and lcas (widens track a little though) with skyline brakes all round, just for a bit of wank factor, r32/A31 crossmember, r32 steel engine mount brackets I slotted mine so engine sat right back and as low as poss as bonnet hits throttlebody, gearbox yoke off skiddy, bigger radiator, couple of 12" thermos and get rid of A/C...I could keep mine cool with a/c but couldnt use it at all, much better now that its gone. also need to make up a gearbox crossmember...pretty easy really just probably will have a few teething issues.

Thats just off top of my head, been a year or so since I done mine, plenty of threads already on it though so a search should turn up some stuff, on here or nissansilvia (although ns doesnt seem to have very good info on it, full of f**kheads)

as for price try and add up all parts

prices are gold coast prices

mount brackets $100 per side

crossmember $250

rear hubs and adapter for cable $330

front hubs lcas approx $200 I think I got them for

R32 GTR brakes were $700

if you get new rotors DBA ones are $770 all round

add like 3k for all the little things you forgot about

add a couple of k for more things forgot about lol

Then double it and that will be how much it will cost

dude i dont know where your buying your parts but you could have just bout bought a shitty r33 turbo and stripped it for parts lmao

[eightsixboy]

Bottom line sr20=sounds like ass

Seriously though there ok standard, but would much prefer a standard skyline, sounds better, more torque, looks better. Most 180's look lame, only decent on ive seen around is near my work, stock kit, black and nicely lowered with wheels, none of the crappy bodykits that stick out everywhere.

[ForceFedVL]

dude i dont know where your buying your parts but you could have just bout bought a shitty r33 turbo and stripped it for parts lmao

Didnt have the room to have a pos skiddy lying around and then have the trouble of tryna get rid of a non rolling shell, had I been back in NZ I would have coz you can pick em up for a few hundred minus the engine and box, doesn't seem that way over here.

and in case you didnt realise the last few lines of the post you quoted were over exagerrated, just a little. What I was meaning by it is you can add up everything you think an engine conversion will cost, and by the time you finish you would have spent twice that, as the old rule goes you add everything up you THINK it will cost and triple it.

Yea sure you can do things on the cheap but I don't like to get something done, and then next weekend pull it all apart again to replace something that should have been replaced the first time round.

Edited January 26, 2011 by ForceFedVL

[Mr Eps]

jason / 4cefedVL

...after re-reading your post... i must say i have NO idea why i thought you were being defensive...

that was really weird, and i feel like a bit of a twat.

please accept this basket of puppies as means of my sincere apology!!!

[emtea]

there is no ABS. no trac control. no airbag. so active stability. no variable valve timing. no auto on auto off headlights. no adjustable intermittence of window wipers. no fog lights. no rain proof windscreen. no bi-xenon headlights. no digital climate control. no electric seats.

Eps - 96-98 models (type x, type s) have ABS, airbag and intermittent wipers. Pretty sure most of them have digital climate control too (mine did), except for the early ones.

Can you enlighten me as to what a "rain proof windscreen" is? Most of the cars I've had have had a windscreen that doesn't leak when it rains... not all, but most....

[Mr Eps]

lol then you've never *truly* had an S13

but yes i'm aware that type x had moar features... im just syaing - for the most part... the 180sx is about as technologically advanced as a gemini... only difference is... they happen to have a thermonuclear rocket attached to them... and that makes them fun to drive..

...as fun as they are to drive though - i would personally never own one..

and - rain proof glass is a different composite of glass that became popular in the late 90's... basically it just means that rain streaks off the glass rather than "sticking" to it...

i just bought a trust stainless steel dual catback. umad?

[emtea]

I'm pretty sure I had an S13, the chassis said RPS13 on it....

So basically "rain proof glass" is just like if you got a normal bit of glass and used rainx on it?

"moar features" ? It's a 180sx, not an iphone...A 180sx is all about corners, not gadgets... The average 180sx driver couldn't give a stuff about electric seats and stability control, yet you have listed the lack of these things as a reason not to get a 180sx... I'm not sure you understand the concept of what its strengths are....

Lets look at the gemini (base model) : SOHC, carb, no power anything, no a/c, rear drum brakes, sealed beam headlights (except for TG), no tacho even... probably more that I can't remember right now... Doesn't seem very similar to the S13 if you ask me...