Have A Nice Stagea Lined Up

[hks33]

Hey guys,

Moving onto the land of the RSfour soon. Current car is a 1996 Series II R33, just need a quick rundown on what i should be looking for when i purchase the stagea im looking at.

Some quick details about the car are

1996, Series II, Rsfour, Rb25det neo, 84,000km, twin sunroofs, Dayz edition and factory manual (supposedly)

I have test driven the car and when i took it for a drive i couldn't even hear the turbo spool and if i did it was not much spool noise at all, I couldnt even hear a bov when i backed of the throttle. Is this normal? and how can i tell if the car has been converted to manual from automatic? This car feels nowere near as quick as my R33 (virtually stock apart from basic modifications) i know the car is alot heavier but i would have at least thought it would have a little bit of umph.

maybe i just need to drive it again...

Best regards and looking foward to some answers

[WGNPWR]

There's no 1996 s2.....

[hks33]

my bad, thinking of my skyline...

stagea is a 1999**

[Brendan&Ana]

factory manual should have a rsfours sticker on the boot on right handside

[hks33]

sweet as thanks heaps dude, going to check the tags and see how i go from there,

could anyone give me some more information on the other questions i've asked

Best regards chris

[Bronx]

its got a recirculating BOV, so you wont hear the BOV, the turbo is not heaps noisy, but you can hear it, at about 2.5k rpm you should be able to hear it spool up. pretty high pitched whine.

check the instrument cluster, if it has the middle section (between speedo and revs) if it has the N, R,D etc, then it used to be auto. other than that, i dont know how the inside was different to a auto, besides the steering wheel which had the +/- symbols on it

[hks33]

yeah completely understand what your saying, i got a plumback on my R33 and that is fairly loud, and you can hear the turbo spool a mile away compared to this.

will need to go take another look just to be sure...the WGNC stands for series II RSfour S i believe

Will need to go for another drive and look this saturday i think, not sure if ive missed anything else before i make a purchase?

[d1_drifter]

WGNCxxx will be either or...

Edited February 24, 2011 by d1_drifter

[hks33]

this is the vin number... 6U900WGNC34128805

test drove the car myself and it was manual as i had stated... this has got me quite confused now.

[hks33]

Alright, here's a basic run-down:

Model:......................Driveline:...............Engine:..............Chassi

Code:

RS Four S..................AWD manual..........RB25DET Neo......WGNC34

RS Four V..................AWD......................RB25DET............WGNC34

RS Four.....................AWD......................RB25DET............WGNC34

RS............................RWD......................RB25DET............WGC34

25X Four...................AWD.......................RB25DE.............WGNC34

25G Four...................AWD.......................RB25DE.............WGNC34

25X..........................RWD.......................RB25DE.............WGC34

25G..........................RWD.......................RB25DE.............WGC34

20G..........................RWD.......................RB20DE.............WHC34

So, basically, when it comes to model spec, "RS" is anything turbo, "RS Four" is turbo AWD, "Four" is any AWD, and "RS Four S" is turbo AWD with manual (series 2 only, and there were NO turbo RWDs).

As far as chassis codes, series 1 all had an "E-" prefix (such as E-WHC34), and series 2 all had the "GF-" prefix (such as GF-WGNC34).

WHC = RB20DE power (the lowest model and in one spec level and RWD only)

WGC = RB25DE or RB25DET power, and RWD only

WGNC = RB25DE or RB25DET power, AWD.

So, H = RB20 power, G = RB25 power, and GN = RB25 + AWD.

All this info was found RIGHT HERE, and I will update the first post when I have time with more specific details regarding release dates, spec levels, and options.

Maybe this will clear some things up...

[d1_drifter]

Sorry, edited my post to what it should of been haha. Thinking out aloud...

RS Four S is factory manual, with gauges above the air con, different interior, different wheels and also has a rear LSD.

[hks33]

nah its fine man, did the same today myself.. had a long day at work like myself im assuming

car has 3 gauges above the electronic climate control unit, similar interior to a R34 gt-t and im not 100% but i thought i read some were that the lsd was a option on the car.

Heres a link and take a look tell me what you think, i believe its the RSfour S... http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=220739948704 Not too sure if its factory manual one of the few things i did notice was the clutch pedal was a bitch to depress for a short period of time due to the force required to push it in. Should be able to solve that problem with a new slave cylinder.

Just want to know if it was a factory manual or auto as i want a factory manual

[RS4-S]

I got an s2 RS4-S with no guages above the climate control? my interior is very close to an R34GTT and you sit very low in the car and yes rear LSD (mines very tight and skips the inside wheel on tight turns.

if you want to know if it was originallt manual get someone to run the vin though FAST, also with the clutch, if its heavy i dare say the pressure plate has packed it in (or it has a heavy duty clutch) but doubt it) instead of the slave but its worth using that problem to bargin them down.

[wolverine]

Your link doesn't load.

On an RS4S there should be a torque, battery voltage and boost gauge in the centre. The seats and door trim should be identical to an R34 GT-t skyline. There are a few other things but this will usually rule out most of the aftermarket conversions.

It sounds like an aftermarket heavy duty clutch....and yes the car is much heavier than an R33 so they are doggier off the line.

[hks33]

I got an s2 RS4-S with no guages above the climate control? my interior is very close to an R34GTT and you sit very low in the car and yes rear LSD (mines very tight and skips the inside wheel on tight turns.

if you want to know if it was originallt manual get someone to run the vin though FAST, also with the clutch, if its heavy i dare say the pressure plate has packed it in (or it has a heavy duty clutch) but doubt it) instead of the slave but its worth using that problem to bargin them down.

Ahh, just what i would of needed another ball buster of a clutch replacement. Like the last one wasnt enough, i did it alone with the car up on a few jacks then resting the box of my 33 on my chest. . Not sure if i recall sitting low to the ground but the interior matched very close to a R34 gt-t

Do you think you might know anyone with a Fast program they could run the vin through?

[hks33]

Your link doesn't load.

On an RS4S there should be a torque, battery voltage and boost gauge in the centre. The seats and door trim should be identical to an R34 GT-t skyline. There are a few other things but this will usually rule out most of the aftermarket conversions.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1999-Nissan-Stagea-4WD-C34-Twin-Sunroof-Manual_W0QQitemZ220739948704QQcategoryZ35227QQcmdZViewItem heres the link, open up a bigger view of the photos and tell me if you guys can rule out a conversion of any kind by the pictures.

[Stinky Rooster]

99% sure you can rule out a onversion - looks pretty factory to me. It actually looks like a nice car, and in response to your original question, a few things to look for

Check the doors near the mirrors for rust. Also have a close look at the front strut towers, and the subframe mounting points under the arse end. Some of these areas can be pretty expensive to fix due to being very labour intensive.

Make sure the uni's in both the driveshafts are nice and tight, and make sure you do full lock to lock tests on the test drive, like you would a FWD vehicle. Front shafts can cop a flogging if its been driven hard.

Looks like a bloody nice car if its in good nick

[SMOKEYV35]

looks like a factory manual.

i've got a factory manual and all signs point to it being a factory manual. same seats, same gauges, same console trim, has the factory rims, and the rsfourS stickers on the back.

only thing is its not a dayz edition - it only has a dayz rear spoiler, not the full kit. looks like a nismo rear muffler too.

there is no way it will feel like a 33, so much heavier and AWD.

and stock airbox and SMIC is virtually silent. i changed my airbox to a pod though, and you will defintely hear it - mine sounds like a jet.

[hks33]

thanks heaps guys means alot. You guys in the world of the Stagea are soo much more friendly/helpful and prompt with your responses as opposed to the skyliners..

Seems to be a tiny bit of rust under one of the mirrors which is under the basecoat itself.

Seems to be a bit of exterior damage... small mark on the front bumper, drivers side a-pillar

Havent ruled out rust yet.. and how will i do the test for the uni in both driveshafts, what kind of things do i look out for as this is my first non rwd car im purchasing. Not to fussed about paint condition as im a painter by trade.

[wolverine]

It looks like an RS4S to me, seats, gauges, RS4S sticker...(and rust under the mirrors ).

It has a DAYZ sticker I believe it is possible that the front bar wasn't optioned?!?! It is equally possible this has been replaced for some reason (perhaps accident??)

The front bar is different from the one on Ms Wolvs.

Get someone to check it on FAST.