Rb25De Into Gts-T Shell

[azarawr]

G'day fellow SAU members,

This may have been covered before but rather than paying $6,000 for a non-turbo R33 with high km's I have been thinking about purchasing a RB25DE with low km's and putting it into a r33 GTS-T roller. My question is, would I need a mod plate because the GTS-T was released with the turbo engine and I will be installing the non-turbo engine? I just want to put it to rest so I can go forth and start this project of mine.

And I don't want to hear about how I should just get a non-turbo, I am not stupid. I know what is involved with this installation and I have done plenty of engine transplants with my father over the years. I am just confused on the legality of such an installation.

Cheers

[G0DZLR]

Not sure what the laws are in qld regarding converstions like that.

BUT....if you were in Vic all you would need is to change the engine number over at VicRoads and away you go. Because the R33s came out with that particular engine (the RB25DE) you wont need a mod plate. And i believe this is also the case if you were to do a 26 or even a 20 as they both made appearances in that shell aswell.

[azarawr]

Yes that sounds about right, Thankyou mate

[TwoCents]

Apparantly you cant do it in QLD as the shell will always be considered as a turbo model. Thats just what I have heard I would call up QLD roads or whatever before doing anything.

[Birds]

If you're doing it so that you can drive the car on your P plates, it will still come up as a turbo model because the VIN number is persistent no matter what engine or engine number you put onto it. Therefore still illegal to drive on your P plates even with the DE engine.

If you're just doing it because it's cheaper or you already have a rolling chassis and are not on your P plates, go nuts. Best people to speak to are your local traffic authority / governing body / RTA.

[azarawr]

No Worries, I thought I would ask before going and doing it.

Cheers for the replies

[azarawr]

I thought I would give an update, in Queensland it is legal on p-plate restrictions as long as a change of vehicle particulars form is submitted which indicates to main roads/policing body that the car with that specific VIN is now a non-turbo/naturally aspirated vehicle.

[Birds]

For all the f***ing around, expenses and paperwork involved, it is not worth it. There's a reason why N/A command that much and why people are happy to pay it.

[TurboDoseBro]

I think it's worth every cent.

[azarawr]

It works out to be cheaper in the long run, I believe if you have a hoist.

[StealthX]

Lol such an unnecessary dick around.

Sell current car

Buy GTS

Spend saved monies on wheels and suspension

Sleep well at night knowing you havnt ruined a completely good GTSt

Profit, get bitches.

Or, you could completely ignore us and do it anyway, your choice,

[azarawr]

Í am not doing it, I was going to a while ago then I had a sudden urge to get a skyline again after getting over them because they became quite common in the recent times. Now I settled back on my idea I had about a year ago and that was building a RB26/30. So over the next 18months I will be doing this and a thread will be going up within the next couple of weeks if you older boys want to give me some tips. I have been reading a couple of other threads mostly huddy's and Simonster's, so I have a fairly good scope on oil mods that I didn't know of before. So hate if your gonna hate, but if not welcome

Cheers

Edited March 24, 2011 by azarawr

[StealthX]

  On 24/03/2011 at 3:15 PM, azarawr said:

Í am not doing it, I was going to a while ago then I had a sudden urge to get a skyline again after getting over them because they became quite common in the recent times. Now I settled back on my idea I had about a year ago and that was building a RB26/30. So over the next 18months I will be doing this and a thread will be going up within the next couple of weeks if you older boys want to give me some tips. I have been reading a couple of other threads mostly huddy's and Simonster's, so I have a fairly good scope on oil mods that I didn't know of before. So hate if your gonna hate, but if not welcome

Cheers

Smart lad.

Good luck,

Just outta curiosity, how old are you?

[Luke_GTS-T]

+1 how old are you? I don't think a 16yo building a rb26/30 is the best idea...

[azarawr]

I am 19 in July and I am a second year mechanical engineering student at QUT and my mother and father have an r33 series 2 gts-t and dad has been working on that for the last couple of years. So I have some guidance, how do you think I got the rb26/30 idea

[Birds]

  On 24/03/2011 at 3:15 PM, azarawr said:

Í am not doing it, I was going to a while ago then I had a sudden urge to get a skyline again after getting over them because they became quite common in the recent times. Now I settled back on my idea I had about a year ago and that was building a RB26/30. So over the next 18months I will be doing this and a thread will be going up within the next couple of weeks if you older boys want to give me some tips. I have been reading a couple of other threads mostly huddy's and Simonster's, so I have a fairly good scope on oil mods that I didn't know of before. So hate if your gonna hate, but if not welcome

Cheers

TL;DR: we were right?

And that's all it is, urges! Read all the laws that apply to you and THEN consider what you can do with a Skyline

[azarawr]

  On 24/03/2011 at 11:49 PM, Birds said:

TL;DR: we were right?

And that's all it is, urges! Read all the laws that apply to you and THEN consider what you can do with a Skyline

Yer, dad was on your side he said why bother when you can build a turbo and in 18 months you can drive it, thank god for parents right

[Birds]

Good, listen to them, they've lived life before you came along and most of the time will know what's right, without you having to learn the hard way lol

[StealthX]

  On 24/03/2011 at 11:25 PM, azarawr said:

I am 19 in July and I am a second year mechanical engineering student at QUT and my mother and father have an r33 series 2 gts-t and dad has been working on that for the last couple of years. So I have some guidance, how do you think I got the rb26/30 idea

2nd year mech engineering wont bag you the experience to build an engine bro.

I've done about half of an automotive engineering course, and I still wouldn't build an entire engine myself. It requires specialty tools and skills that you can't get from anywhere but an engine builder.

I'm not saying don't have a go, but don't expect it to last that many KMs if it's built in a backyard, and I think it's gonna cost ya a bit more than a student budget will stretch to build a reliable 26/30.

save up and let a performance workshop/machinist build it, by all means put it in yourself etc, but I don't think you realise the work involved for a 26/30 build.

good luck champ!

[azarawr]

Oh yer, I didn't mean to sound cocky I was just trying to say that this will be my life's work so it isnt just a pipedream and I am going to commit to it. I am going to get my head ported and valvetrain put together possibly with jhh engineering. I may balance and machine my crank with them also. I am going to build the components as I go and in the end get it tuned by an engine builder that specializes in motec ecu systems.

Student wages are shit I know but it won't be going together for another year or so, so I am not expecting to finish it by July.

Thanks for the advice though

Aaron