Holden Viva

[Big Fella]

Tech 2(Holden diagnostic tool) units won't just display the exact place to look, but if they checked the Data list, or used their common sense it would've taken about 30 seconds to find, and 20 of them would have been to open the bonnet. Was it the actaul Throttle Postion Sensor or something else??

Throttle body clean is commonly done every 45k, it's just your typical wynns/fortron upsell. seeing as Vivas are knopwn to breathe oil pretty heavily back into the intake it prob would have been fairly dirty.

You would have been better off buying some $10 carbi-clean from sprints/autobarn/supercheap and a rag and cleaning it out yourself.

[mad082]

Japanese cars > Australian cars.

Oooo, the bogans won't be happy with that remark!

I work at repco and while I see most of the people doing things the cheaper way, there is a holden and ford dealership across the road, Ohh the stories...

the horror stories are you refering to the work done or the problems with cars? if it's the work done, you will find that in any dealership, even a nissan one. if it's horror stories, then yeah they will be plenty, but don't forget that you have to allow at least some margin of error down to the segment of population that buy those cars being tools and treat them like shit and don't maintain them. not saying this makes up for all the problems, but at least some of them.

[BeastVS]

We use these as company cars, complete joke of a car, every single one of them has had a heap of faults, most common thing is head light assembly's melting lol.

[beemae30]

lol How the hell do you design a headlight assembly that melts?

[FrangaR33]

lol How the hell do you design a headlight assembly that melts?

Its quite simple really, you first design one thats brilliant and will work forever, then the accountants come in and decide that your design is too expensive and you have to design one that costs $5 instead of $7. That is why the headlining in the VN-VS Commodores (i'm not sure about the later ones) is made out of cardboard and inevitably sags. Its also the reason that they used pop rivets instead of bolts to secure the electric window regulators to save what I can only imagine was maybe $2 a car.

I'm not hating on Holden just pointing out that they along with all other car companys cut corners to save money wherever they can. Also to the OP its a Daewoo with a Holden badge, so dont be too pissed off with Holden, the Commodore which is actually a Holden is actually a pretty good car especially for the money. Also getting your car serviced at the dealers is mostly for chumps, my brother used to work at Holden and the stories of the shit they used to do in order to save money or go joyriding in peoples cars at lunch time was enough to make me never want to get a service done at a dealer ever. If I want work done on my car I will find a good reliable mechanic.

Edited June 19, 2011 by FrangaR33

[beemae30]

Very true. Companies save $1 on each car to screw their customers out of $800 down the line. And i would never take my car to a mechanic unless i knew his work was good. I do all my work my self.

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

My wife ran a Dasfleet site, then a Europcar site. The holdens and fords were constantly fking out. The stayers were the corolla's, nothing went wrong with them and the next best were the Hyundai's.

[simpletool]

Yeah well after it still not idling or changing gears smoothly the engine check light cam on.....AGAIN. So I popped the bonnet and took all the bits off the throttle body. Gave it a clean with degreaser, checked all electrical connectors, gave some rubber bits a silicon spray, took some slack out of the cable, etc. Put it all back together again. Smooth as a baby, engine check light gone, idles lovely, changes gears perfectly.

So yep, just muppets really. I'd do it all myself normally but it needs a log book stamp - if only I could get my hands on one of those stamps.

[cannabiscorpse]

Yeah well after it still not idling or changing gears smoothly the engine check light cam on.....AGAIN. So I popped the bonnet and took all the bits off the throttle body. Gave it a clean with degreaser, checked all electrical connectors, gave some rubber bits a silicon spray, took some slack out of the cable, etc. Put it all back together again. Smooth as a baby, engine check light gone, idles lovely, changes gears perfectly.

So yep, just muppets really. I'd do it all myself normally but it needs a log book stamp - if only I could get my hands on one of those stamps.

Thats the shit part about owning new/newish cars. You have to take it to approved 'mechanics' in order to keep your warranty, and that doesnt count trying to resell the thing. Even if the mechanics are a bunch of retards who f**k everything up, their little stamp holds a lot of weight.

[StealthX]

the horror stories are you refering to the work done or the problems with cars? if it's the work done, you will find that in any dealership, even a nissan one. if it's horror stories, then yeah they will be plenty, but don't forget that you have to allow at least some margin of error down to the segment of population that buy those cars being tools and treat them like shit and don't maintain them. not saying this makes up for all the problems, but at least some of them.

problems with the cars...

things like two month old commodores dropping two cylinders and rodeo o2 sensors shitting themselves, one particular model went: o2 sensor dead > bent valves (50,000 kms)

not no mention every second customer buying body clips for interior panels. most of said clips are kept in quantities from 3-5 packets, because we sell so much, holden clips have a base stock level of 15 hahahahaha

in contrast, there's a ford and a toyota dealership next to the holden one, usual stories of expensive parts and poor service, but nothing like the stories of brand new cars falling apart...

[roadworia]

commodores generally arent too bad. its the korean cars (cruze,viva,captiva) that are horrible. i work at a holden dealership and i laugh at the prices spare parts quote up. people actually pay $150 for front wiper rubber replacement plus labour of around $30-50.

that ticking noise in the viva has a "fix" for it. i think its a software update or something.

[Joe Nash]

i honestly didn't read everyones info here, but i would like to put my 2 cents worth in, my misses has one, has had it from new, the only problem we have had with it so far is that for some unknown reason the radiator cap stuffed up, and as such caused some serious over heating to the engine, got that fixed by the "family" mechanic but now has some weird ticking noice and doesn't like early morning starts.

now i also just bought my first skyline a few weeks ago and to me she wants my car more then her own car, to me this is funny, but said at the same time, as the holden brand has been known to be a good car in australia for a number of years, but looks like it is down sizing everything so they can keep there high profits.

anyway, my two cents