Gulf Western Sougi 6000

[GTS-t VSPEC]

mobil isnt a 100% synthetic, fully synthetic in their terms just means mostly synthetic. or so ive been told.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-engine-turbo-drivetrain/261012-mobil-1-fully-synthetic-not.html

[luvpsi]

like most oil companies haha they all say fully synthetic when they not

[Black_CSR]

Penrite Sin 10.

[kingscorp]

You have been told wrong.

All Mobil 1 products are a true synthetic PAO/Ester mix (Group 4 or 5)

Most the cheaper synthetics are a group 2 or 3 (Hydrocracked Mineral Oils)

We (United Oil) have PAO/Ester mix United 1 5w50 and Ultimax 10w60, we also have Double Ester 171

Here are the data sheets

Racing 171

United 1 Racing

Ultimax Racing

All these above products have been are being used in full motorsport applications now, I use the Ultimax 10w60 in my SR20 Racecar but have also used the United 1 5w50.

We have a special for the United 1 5w50, $200.00 Including GST for a box of 6 x 5ltr

Let me know if you want some

Ashly

0417 936 001

United Oil Singapore

United Oil Perth

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Hi Ash,

I know you work for United Oil, so will be slightly biased, but what if anything is the difference between Mobil 1 Full Synthetic and the United Oil products ?

What would you recommend for my race car ? I tend to use Mobil 1, but have also used FUCHS (when you worked there). I'm willing to swap if there is sufficient reason to

[luvpsi]

hey ash who in perth stocks united oils? im interested in getting some of either united 1 or ultimax. what would you suggest for a streeter?

[kingscorp]

Hi Ash,

I know you work for United Oil, so will be slightly biased, but what if anything is the difference between Mobil 1 Full Synthetic and the United Oil products ?

What would you recommend for my race car ? I tend to use Mobil 1, but have also used FUCHS (when you worked there). I'm willing to swap if there is sufficient reason to

I'n not biased, I dont think you can buy a bad oil these days. True they are all different but if you do a fair comparison between different oil brands that are the same spec you wont find much difference in Performance. People tend to get caught up in Brand Marketing hype, but when is the last time you heard of an engine blowing up because the oil failed?

Mobil 1 products are true synthetics, at least group 4 (PAO) and im sure some have Ester mixed in, or are full ester. All Mobil 1 products are, including Gear and Transmission Oils.

As you know Paul I have worked for many oil companies (Express Oil, Shell, Mobil, Fuchs and now United Oil) I have used all their top tier synthetic lubricants and they all performed very well. But you have to know which products are "true" synthetic. I can tell you our United Ultimax 10w60 (PAO/Ester + Moly), United 1 5w50 (PAO/Ester) and 171 Racing 5w40 (Double Ester) are propper synthetic racing oil. The Ultimax and 171 have been designed specifically for motorsport use. Our United 1 Racing is also a racing oil, similar to the Mobil 1 5w50 (Grey Pack)

I have free access to the United Oil products including the expensive 171 Ester, I currently use the Ultimax 10w60 in my 200sx racecar and the United 1 5w50 in my R32 GTR. I have used the United 1 5w50 in the 200sx racecar but because we sell alot of United 1 I decided to switch to the Ultimax 10w60 for stock reasons.

Your race car either the 5w50 or 10w60, what lifters are you using?

ash

[kingscorp]

hey ash who in perth stocks united oils? im interested in getting some of either united 1 or ultimax. what would you suggest for a streeter?

Not manr autoshops stock it, mostly trade distributors. Filters Elite in Cannington stock most of our products.

I am happy to supply you direct if you want it, specificaly the $200 special

Ash

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Your race car either the 5w50 or 10w60, what lifters are you using?

ash

The standard hydraulic lifters, just different cams and springs.

[luvpsi]

I want to give it a shot first so I'd only get 5L of ultimate 5w50

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I want to give it a shot first so I'd only get 5L of ultimate 5w50

I may up buying in bulk, so might be able to sort you out with 5L.

[luvpsi]

Oh nice that would be great let me know I'd like to try before I buy in bulk

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I have a 7ltr sump, and with racing you change oil pretty frequently, so it makes sense to buy in bulk. Happy to then let people try out 5L on theres. As Ash points out, pretty much all fully synthetic oils are the same.

[luvpsi]

Yeah but mine only being a streeter and only gets driven on weekends I don't change to often

[JonnoHR31]

would also been keen on the bulk buy when i get my motor running, hopefully 5W50 will be alright.

[luvpsi]

Bringing up a old thread I used the mobil 1 5w30 however after 1000 kms I'm not happy with it I checked the oil it has broken down already and has a bit or a burnt smell and gone black I know black is a good thing as it has cleaned all the carbon out but it should not have broken down this quick looks like it's united 1 or royal purple this time for a shot

[Mr. Keets]

Try Redline...it's not cheap but it's the shiz

[luvpsi]

Yeah I was thinking royal purple or united from kingscorp

[chuckie]

Bringing up a old thread I used the mobil 1 5w30 however after 1000 kms I'm not happy with it I checked the oil it has broken down already and has a bit or a burnt smell and gone black I know black is a good thing as it has cleaned all the carbon out but it should not have broken down this quick looks like it's united 1 or royal purple this time for a shot

5W30 ,really not best stuff to use ,

[luvpsi]

Yeah I realize this so now it's time to drop the oil and replace