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surely just running a bit more angle of attack on the front wing aerofoil elements would be a less retarded solution??

I reeeeally hope (as I suspect it won't) this doesn't turn out to be a successful design feature

I can't see it making much difference

obviously Ferrari think so considering they haven't done the concave design like the other 2 ugly ducklings launched so far.

Sauber have the step, haven't heard much talk about the other cars as yet

in future can we link pictures of this... car... rather than embedding them on the forum pages

i dont need to accidentally see this while im eating

:laugh:

3 days to go until we find out whether Newey's turned the RB8 into a swamp-monster or not

Overheard at Ferrari F1 design studio-

"hay guise- how we gunna get the nose of this car lower than last year?"

'screw this noise, just step that f*kker down at right angles after the pedal-box and let's go get some lambrusco...'

perhaps ferrari have adopted a different mindset to their new design

maybe they are looking at it fundamentally differently to us

as in

'we'll we cant have fcuked this worse that that cruise ship captain'

so from that perspective

it looks pretty good

Edited by ctjet

Ferrari chief designer Nikolas Tombazis defends 'ugly' new F1 car.

Ferrari chief designer Nikolas Tombazis has defended the look of the new Ferrari amid widespread comments that its stepped nose makes the F2012 'ugly'.

The new regulations for 2012 that force the front section of the nose to be low down - while teams desire the chassis section to be higher up - has led to a number of outfits featuring dramatic step changes along that area of the car.

Ferrari's solution on the F2012 is the most extreme seen so far, but Tombazis does not agree with comments that the new car does not look good.

"There have been some rumours saying that this car is ugly and I have to confess that I am not objective on that, as I don't share that opinion," said Tombazis in a video interview broadcast on Ferrari's website.

"For me I have got used to the bump on the nose. I think the rest of the car has been the fruit of a lot of detail work.

"Ultimately, as far as I am concerned, an ugly car is one that doesn't win and a beautiful car is one that does win. So, for now, I want to believe it is a beautiful car and we will have to review that after the first few races."

Tombazis has promised that the Ferrari is also likely to feature a lot of upgrades before the opening race in Melbourne, with a particular focus being made in pre-season testing of defining its exhaust configuration.

"This car is still destined to change quite a lot before the first race," he said. "We have been working in the wind tunnel and the design office on aerodynamic upgrades of the car - but we also have some very important experiments

we want to carry out in the first tests so we can finalise the first race configuration."

Team boss Stefano Domenicali said he was unfazed by the look of the car as long as it's competitive.

"Actually it is not really so pretty from my personal perspective but this is a value that doesn't count in F1. These kind of choices come from technical and regulation constraints, and the choice is to try and maximise the performance of the car.

"As our chairman has already said, [whether] it is ugly or very nice doesn't count a lot. The most important thing is if the car performs."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97292

^that's very italian.

Pretty amusing that anyone in here thinks they can tell even the lowliest of F1 teams how a car should be designed.

fair play

... but I will tell them the front of their cars are uglier than dog turd :teehee:

the exhaust exit on the ferrari and Mclaren doesnt seem to match with the rule:

http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2012/0/925.html

both the mclaren and ferrari engineers must have measured it to within a bees dick of the rules. Mclaren have just added to the sidepods at the back where they stick out so they flow over the rear wheels. On the offical tech spec it shows the exit of the exhaust pretty much pointing to the centre of the car???

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