Vicroads To Change Turbo P Plate Laws Again Back To Power To Weight.

[THENIG]

Will the demand for turbo P-Plate friendly cars increase now?

Discuss..

http://www.themotorr...s-for-p-platers

[Miguelone]

130kw/tonne means R33 4 door just scrapes in.

[blk94r33]

I guess the demand for revenue has gone back up with less people getting "hoon-lawed" to the impound lot.....

[alex182]

only applies to new cars i believe as manufacturers are supposed to include the power/weight ratio on the build plates.

As per vicroads website

Note: To clarify some recent reports, VicRoads has not lifted the ban on P Platers driving turbo cars. It has only been lifted for turbo powered vehicles with a power-to-mass ratio of less than 130 kilowatts per tonne, and the manufacturer has placed the power-to-mass ratio on the build plate.

If you are unsure what vehicles you can drive, check the probationary vehicle database.

so old liner's are still prohibited as per vehicle database. You can apply for an exemption for an R32 GTST Sedan as it's deemed a "family car" (4 seats + child restraint anchorages) at 121kw/tonne as a "low-powered turbo car"

EDIT: we were having this discussion in the "General automotive thread" under "best non-turbo skyline".

for arguments sake heres the power/weight ratios for some skylines

R34 GT-T, RB25DET NEO (206kw), Curb weight 1,410kg

206/1410 = 146kw/tonne = BANNED

R33 GTS-T, RB25DET (184kw), Curb Weight 1,390kg

184/1390 = 132kw/tonne = BANNED

R32 GTS-T (Coupe), RB20DET (158kw), Curb Weight 1,280

158/1280 = 123kw/tonne = A-OK for QLD but BANNED in VIC because 2-door

R32 GTS-T (Sedan), RB20DET (158kw), Curb Weight 1,300 (working off the approximation that sedan is 20kg heavier than coupe)

158/1300 = 121kw/tonne = A-OK for QLD & VIC

Disclaimer: OEM power outputs and weights coming from wikipedia. If anyone has any more reliable sources on factory power outputs and/or weights, i'd love to see them as i've found different answers for curb weights.

but i believe the new legislation only applies to new cars that have the PWR on the build plate as this whole thing is based around the new Ford Ecoboost

Edited May 30, 2012 by alex182

[Miguelone]

R33 Taxi

184/1430 = 128kw/tonne

[alex182]

R33 Taxi

184/1430 = 128kw/tonne

touché.

didnt check the 33 sedan.

but im still convinced its prohibited as vicroads states the manufacturer has to fit the power/weight ratio. its more for new cars than existing old cars.

[kaitoukid]

Regardless, I'm assuming you would be able to apply for an exemption for an older car fulfilling the requirements? Not sure, of course.

Although from what I've quickly read and heard, it seems any naturally aspirated car within 130 kW/t should be okay; however it's 125 kW/t if turbocharged (provided they are a 'family car').

For example, had a quick google, finding it a bit tricky to find the weight, but I think golf gti's would be fair game, if so. Just would have to apply (assuming getting an older mkv or something). Read in a different article (about this issue) that apparently some guy from VW was like "Why the laws prohibit GTI's, and need p platers to get exemptions for little 1.2 TSI's while being okay for them to drive R32's is beyond me" hahaha. I know if I had had the money, I would have considered R32 .

Edited May 30, 2012 by kaitoukid

[Bud Wiser]

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/exeres/2CCDA928-0B07-404D-B6A5-F14AC2356E20.htm Edited May 31, 2012 by Bud Wiser