Muz Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 Hey Bass, Thanks for the guide mate. Had to do some mods and put another bend in plus cut out the same corner as CNBLOW. Also had to remove the rubber strips from the bonnet but no dramas. Only other thing was that the guide was obviously made for the standard airbox arrangement and the small duct area was unnecessary for those with a Pod filter. Or did I get the wrong one and looking at GTTR34's photo, I would say that I did which probably explains why it didn't fit correctly. Cheers and look forward to the piping. Muz Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1026095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Junky Posted September 26, 2004 Author Share Posted September 26, 2004 CNBLOW I've never gotten home from Tunstall Square to my house in such a short time. I got there just as the Cabbie was heading up the street. He was hounding my missus to try to sell her "Amway style insurance" or some shit, and he was giving her phone numbers and shit. Sorry I had to run. About the guide, Did you put the little lever through the hole? The marks you would have seen are the slight markings from the boot that goes around the router cutter (which spins at 50,000 rpm) Muz, I left the duct bit there so that if you want to you can modify it to scoop air from the grill area up in to the standard inlet duct. Your's looks and it bent different to the other ones because the standard front bar doesn't have the raised grill bit lilke the Nismo bars. Could everyone who's made modifications to theirs please post some photos. Thanks. BASS OUT Check my sig also for the AFM to TURBO ducts..... anyone not yet posted in the other thread? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1026917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Junky Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 Ground Run.... Hello? You around dude?? Your guide is ready and waiting. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1026987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoR34 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Thanks for the guide Pete I dont think I had the same problem as CNBLOW or Muz??? Mine was very hard to get on though - I had to remove the little plastic bonnet hook clip [middle one of the two clips that holds the rod in place located on radiator support Drivers Side] otherwise I would have broken it to get the guide past. Even after removing the clip it still needed to be forced into place and currently slightly cuts into the Drivers Side of the front bar / grill area [only slightly]. It would appear to me that if the cut outs all along the top [where the bolts etc go] were shifted a couple of mm to the left it would be a perfect fit on mine so I may modify it slightly to match. As discussed yesterday these are possibly minor variations due perhaps to the cars being built in different factories / production lines etc? I also put some tape on the underside of the bottom part of the guide so it will not scratch the crap out of my bar / grille. Lastly - I am not sure this setup is great for intake air to the snorkel / filter area. I am currently running a pod with the standard snorkel guiding air to it. Basically the guide seals right up against the underside of the bonnet and blocks airflow. I am aware of drilling some holes to allow some air to go through [someone posted a pic of it] but I am not yet convinced that the trade off is worth it? Just some constructive criticism. After fitting the guide yesterday my Oil temp was running much hotter than usual and boost was about 1-2 psi down. Boost was peaking at 10 psi before the guide and only 8-9 psi afterwards - the weather was mild & sunny but I don't think the weather was the main cause of the drop in performance. Radiator / Coolant temp was in normal range, perhaps even a little cooler! Anyone else noticed any performance differences? Don't get me wrong - the guide is in and looks great! Still testing performance issues. Giving you a rating now [give me one too;)] and looking forward to the AFM>Turbo pipe that I have wanted for nearly 2 years Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Junky Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 Nismo. I think with the air flow to the std intake snorkel, you could possible put some sticky back foam onto the guide to channel the air into the snorkel. The air getting to the standard snorkal is acutally picked up from the area above the guide and theoretically the guide should push air into the snorkal...... I've got no answer for the extra heat issue or the boost issue. Maybe there is less air going over the radiator and going through the engine bay..? If that's the case, maybe removing the little rubber flaps to allow some air to go over the top of the engine bay might have an effect.... but I'm just speculating. BASS OUT Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoR34 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 The air getting to the standard snorkal is acutally picked up from the area above the guide and theoretically the guide should push air into the snorkal......BASS OUTI know air is picked up above the guide and I thought the guide would actually help but about 3 inches back from the very end of the bonnet is a part of the bonnet [underneath] that seals / touches against the air guide - just before the start of the snorkel - see attached pic. As you know mine doesn't have the rubber shown in the pic either...An aftermarket bonnet without this LUMP of metal in it would certainly fix the problem Though I am sure it is also there to guide air into the snorkel! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Junky Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 Oh okay, I see what you mean..... So the air is getting to the snorkal normally by going underneath that lump of sheetmetal......... didn't think of that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoR34 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I will probably drill a few holes or something because I want to keep the guide there as I think it is good for the airfow to radiator. btw those 2 bolts were VFT I dont think they have ever been removed before - didnt thread them though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Junky Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 By the looks of the rubber flap and things, they may or may not be forcing the air to go into the snorkel...... You can see that the only place there is no flaps is where the snorkel is...... Interesting. Maybe some "Speed Holes" would be a plan. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoR34 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Yeah it makes sense looking at both of Abo Bob's pics that the rubber is there to seal the bonnet against his Nissan Sports bar n grille - i dont have the rubber there because there's nothing to seal agianst with the std bar...speed holes :aroused: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNBLOW Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 hey nismo34...ive noticed bout the oil temp as well.....runs a little hotter then it used to...not sure why though...maybe not enough air through...will try a post pic Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNBLOW Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Thats cool bass...hope u sorted him out...well maybe we can have a chat next time i guess Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy_ Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Hey all!!!! I think I noticed the increase in oil temp aswell- but after driving around for a while its come back down again so I dont think it was the guide doing it - the weather starting to heat up here also Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downforce Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Yeah it makes sense looking at both of Abo Bob's pics that the rubber is there to seal the bonnet against his Nissan Sports bar n grille - i dont have the rubber there because there's nothing to seal agianst with the std bar...speed holes :aroused: I have the rubber on the underside of my bonnet! I thought it was the standard fitting... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedLineGTR Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Here's an idea Dont know if it work as well as it could, but its a start Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1027812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Junky Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 Redline. That's what I'm going to be doing with mine eventually. The people with the Nismo front bars already have the slots in them to be able to actually bend the slotted section down to scoop air up. I'll show you mine with I'm finished. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1028257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoR34 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I have the rubber on the underside of my bonnet! I thought it was the standard fitting... Ok, here goes: Q1: which bit of rubber exactly, are you talking about? Its starting to sound like you have taken me out of context - which incidently, I am totally sick of happening on this site, no offence to you becuase I am unable to workout from your brief text whether or not you have, it just looks like you have so far... Once you have worked out my first question then please answer me this part: Q2: what front bar came with your car from nissan? My post referred to speculating that the rubber [circled in red in MY attached version / pic of Abo Bob's car] on the LHS is there to seal against the NISSAN SPORTS FRONT BAR - it is obvious when looking at one of these examples that the rubber in question will line up nicely with the top part of the grill - and hence seal it when the bonnet is shut. My car has the STANDARD TYPE front bar and has no grill and hence doesn't need to have rubber because there isnt anything to seal against - again quite an obvious thing once viewed. Please: if you are going to post a comment at least give me enough info to let me know that A. you know what I am talking about and B. that you also know what you are talking about! Why am I on here? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1028965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoR34 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 ps I know you dont have either of the "std" or "sports" bars on your car currently [its like URAS or something]... I also have rubber on the underside of my bonnet!!! Just not exactly the same as Abo Bob's. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1028969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
3R1K Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Bass, I got my air guide, it's awesome thanx alot Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1028994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Junky Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 Ok, here goes: Q1: which bit of rubber exactly, are you talking about? Okay, The rubber bit that people are taking about removing is the bit which is the bit closest to the front of the bonnet. Its starting to sound like you have taken me out of context - which incidently, I am totally sick of happening on this site, no offence to you becuase I am unable to workout from your brief text whether or not you have, it just looks like you have so far... I'm sure it's not intentional. Threads like this are always going to be subject to interpretation of tone and attitude. Once you have worked out my first question then please answer me this part: Q2: what front bar came with your car from nissan?My post referred to speculating that the rubber [circled in red in MY attached version / pic of Abo Bob's car] on the LHS is there to seal against the NISSAN SPORTS FRONT BAR - it is obvious when looking at one of these examples that the rubber in question will line up nicely with the top part of the grill - and hence seal it when the bonnet is shut. My car has the STANDARD TYPE front bar and has no grill and hence doesn't need to have rubber because there isnt anything to seal against - again quite an obvious thing once viewed. Looks like you may be onto something. The rubber "flap" (will call it) looks like it will seal close just behind the Nissan Sports bar. I'm not sure whether this flap was a standard fitment or not, as some people have it some dont. Maybe I've had my bonnet changed and the flaps not fitted or something, I don't know. If they were a standard fitment to cars with the Nissan Sport bar, then i looks like R34GTT had a Nissan Sports bar from the factory. Unfortunatly, there is no reason that Nissan wouldn't be exactly like every other car manufacturor, in that they would do whatever is best for the bottom line at the time, therefore, some car have em, some don't. Why am I on here? Cos you love us all. BASS OUT Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/47760-group-buy-r34-gt-t-radiator-guides/page/8/#findComment-1028997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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