Jump to content
SAU Community

R34's and HID Xenon Headlights (confusion)

nuffsaid

By nuffsaid,
in R Series (R30, R31, R32, R33, R34)

 Share

Recommended Posts

nuffsaid Veteran

nuffsaid

Posted
Posted

Hi all,

I've been searching and have only really found one post regarding this topic. See:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...light=r34+xenon

The post still left me a bit confused and was wondering if anyone could help clear up some questions:

1) "Theoretically", when R34 GTT's get imported into Australia, the compliancers have to remove the HID lights because of self cleaning and levelling issues?

2) The self cleaning and levelling did not come with the R34's as opposed to the late series BMW's that come into Aust? Correct?

3) The vast majority of R34 GTT's out there that still have working HIDs in them because they have either re-fitted them or the compliancers didnt really remove them completely (or at all).

4) Different imported GTT's have their HID disabled in different ways. Some have their complete headlight housing replaced, some wires cut, some bulbs replaced?

If some have the complete housing replaced, what are they replaced with? Can someone kindly post different pics of the different housings/headlights.

5) If a GTT has 'Xenon' written inside the headlight housing, does this mean that they have HIDs? ie. Im guessing you could still somehow change the wiring and housing a little to fit a normal halogen bulb. The only really way to tell is by seeing what the beam lokos like when the headlights are on corect?

6) The difficulty and cost of getting HID back in your R34 GTT is dependent on whether you have the original 'Xenon' housing and the wires/bulbs/ballasts/etc. If you have another housing, then its gonna be a big job ie. a full replacement?

Guest RedLineGTR

Guest RedLineGTR

Posted
Posted

1. Yes That's True.

2. Yes That's True.

3. Yes.

4. I know that some have the bulbs replaced and/or wires cut as well but most of them get fitted with non Xenon headlights (The Whole headlight). Don’t have any pictures of specific details but if I find some I’ll post them up.

5. Yes if it says "Xenon" on the headlights they will have HID if it doesn’t then back to the question they would have had the housing replaced but with what I don't know.

6. Most people buy the whole headlight in the Xenon format if they get halogen headlights after compliance or they do a deal with the people who compliance the car. In most cases if the Xenon lights are modified to use halogen globes it would be hard to even find the parts to convert them back...in that case most people go for an aftermarket HID kit.

Hope it answers some of your questions. If I do find out more info about the "housings" etc I’ll post it up for you. Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong about something. Or explain an answer in more detail.

My 2 Cents. Thanks Rob

Guest RedLineGTR

Guest RedLineGTR

Posted
Posted

Non Xenon Headlights Used In Compliance The Headlights are from a basic version of the R34 Like a GT or some 4 Doors.

nonxenon.jpg

True Xenon Headlights which the cars come in to australia with and get replaced with the above. But in most cases people source a pair of genuine Xenons through importers etc and fit them (direct swap of whole headlights).

truexenon.jpg

Thanks Rob

SS8_Gohan Grand Master

SS8_Gohan

Posted
Posted

Yeah, don't meet the light requirements, ie. self leveling/cleaning.

My car is in the process of getting complianced done in Sydney, and for those that say you have to destroy the Xenons, as far as i know, that's wrong. They are factory standard, and not a modification. Mine are being removed, boxed up, and sent down with the car for me to do what i want with after i rego it. Xenon's shouldn't be destroyed or sold by the compliancer without u knowing.

cheers.

lwells Grand Master

lwells

Posted
Posted
Yeah, don't meet the light requirements, ie. self leveling/cleaning.

My car is in the process of getting complianced done in Sydney, and for those that say you have to destroy the Xenons, as far as i know, that's wrong. They are factory standard, and not a modification. Mine are being removed, boxed up, and sent down with the car for me to do what i want with after i rego it. Xenon's shouldn't be destroyed or sold by the compliancer without u knowing.

cheers.

I have done quite a lot of digging on the issue of HID lights. From my understanding, they don't have to be self-levelling (they must be aimed/adjusted within a certain tolerance), but they do have to be self-cleaning. So if you wanted to legally have them on your R34, you would need to retrofit some headlight washers from another car then get an engineer to sign off on them

Lucien.

homer2288 Collaborator

homer2288

Posted
Posted

self leveling and self cleaning? I thought R34 GTT has the option of manual leveling at the ****pit..is that not allowed? Like the Silvia's there's a dial which you can choose the level of the light.

As for self cleaning...i wonder why this feature is not required in Japan...if its not required...i wonder why its required here?

go_nuts Enthusiast

go_nuts

Posted
Posted

homer2288: different design rules we've got here than the rest of the world, in fact it's pretty much unique :) that's half the reason why our roads is somewhat safer.

Heard from a semi-reliable source that one engineer's evidence will include the Xenon headlights in future so they might not need to be replaced/disabled/crushed/whatever in order to get past compliance.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Duncan
      V37 Suspension change

      By Duncan · Posted

      You will now be able to lift the parcel shelf trim enough to get to the shock cover bolts; if you need to full remove the parcel shelf trim for some reason you also remove the escutcheons around the rear seat release and you will have to unplug the high stop light wiring from the boot. Next up is removal of the bracket; 6 nuts and a bolt Good news, you've finally got to the strut top! Remove the dust cover and the 3 shock mount nuts (perhaps leave 1 on lightly for now....) Same on the other side, but easier now you've done it all before
    • Duncan
      V37 Suspension change

      By Duncan · Posted

      OK, so a bunch of trim needs to come off to get to the rear shock top mounts. Once the seat is out of the way, the plastic trim needs to come off. Remove 2 clips at the top then slide the trim towards the centre of the car to clear the lower clip Next you need to be able to lift the parcel shelf, which means you need to remove the mid dark trim around the door, and then the upper light trim above the parcel shelf. The mid trim has a clip in the middle to remove first, then lift the lowest trim off the top of the mid trim (unclips). At the top there is a hidden clip on the inner side to release first by pulling inwards, then the main clip releases by pulling the top towards the front of the car. The door seal comes off with the trim, just put them aside. The the lighter upper trim, this is easy to break to top clips so take it carefully. There is a hidden clip towards the bottom and another in the middle to release first by pulling inwards. Once they are out, there are 3 clips along the rear windscreen side of the panel that are hard to get under. This is what the rear of the panel looks like to assist:
    • GTSBoy
      R34 manual conversion speed signal wire finding, need help

      By GTSBoy · Posted

      Yes. Autos typically work from the speed sensor on the pinion shaft of the diff. I also think that even if you have a proper speed sensor for the bog manual in the manual box, that the signal it outputs is not compatible with the auto dash anyway. You should consult that manual (the book, not the gearbox).
    • GTSBoy
      First time Skyline owner

      By GTSBoy · Posted

      And I just realised that that advice is slightly nonsensical for a GTR, because you need 2 of them. But it is otherwise true.
    • Duncan
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By Duncan · Posted

      Having had a reasonable look at the car, I'll be able to remove the (one time) rams and retract the hinge (they are held in the down location by a tiny (m3?) sacrificial screw) which will get it physically back in shape. From there if you remove the rams you need a resistor to turn off the airbag light (as Mark said, there are plug in kits and I might go that way because its reversible). And...per all the threads on here, even if you have the resistors to turn off the airbag light, the bonnet light will stay on as it writes to the airbag computer history - that is either replace the airbag controller, reprogam the EPROM (if I can work out how), or remove the globe from the dash. Having seen how sensitive this system is, if I had my time over I'd pre-emptively remove the rams, even on a road car, because this is all a very unnecessary pain in the arse. Reminds me, time to go and have a look at the Fuga too....
×
×
  • Create New...