Sleeper......

[dineth]

another sleeper: subaru B4

a good eg:

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/DesktopDefa...lias=carpointau

couldnt tell it has about 206 kw's.

but i think the greatest sleeper of all time has to be the Audi RS8. Looks like a audi staion wagon. but under the hood is a twin turbo V8 with around 400KW's. Only the fat ass tyres and a few little air grills gives away what a monster it is. (well until u start it anyway, that engine note is un belivable) go here to see what i mean www.bb-automobiltechnik.de/ gal_rs4.html

[Cubes]

I call a car that looks dead stock with maybe a slight exhaust (no big milo-tin), stock height etc a sleeper.

Thats only IF the motor is making at least 60% more power over stock

[PLYNX]

Seen a few over the years.

A few memorable ones were;

A mate of mine bought himself a new L34 Bathurst edition Torana and after it was run in we took it for a blast along the M4 at 2.30 one morning. After we had the thing up to about 235 a dark green 68 mustang pulled along side us. My mate stompped it and he stayed with us till the Torrie would go no more then pulled it back a gear and accerated off into the distance. What impressed me the most the thing looked stock.

Man what a ride !

Another friend of mine had an old E30 van with a 5.7L Cleavland in it, man that thing could could mumbo !

Had an opertunity to but a VW Beetle with a 5.7 in it as well but passed it up cause it was pretty unstable at about 140.

A Nissan Bluebird with a Rover 3.5L V8 in it was choice

The list of nutters goes on !

There what I call sleepers( or Q cars in the good old days when the dinosaurs roamed supreem !)

[geno8r]

another sleeper: subaru B4

Dude, thats so not a sleeper. That volvo is a sleeper. A sleeper cant be a performance car or even look like one... Thats the whole point, a car that doesnt have mags or is lowerd or have anything 'kool' about it, but is very fast.

[Cubes]

geno8r.

Its subjective.

A sleeper is no doubt in my eyes a stock looking car that is hardly stock under the bonnet. It doesn't matter if its a performance car from the factory or not.

If thats the case the poor old 5ltr HQ Monaro is not classified as a performance car as those things are slower than a VS series II 3.8ltr Commondore.

[browny]

I can see where your both coming from but I tend to think the more classic example is what geno8r is describing.

As far as i'm concerned a sleeper isn't just something that looks stock, but rather it's something that looks slow. I would find it difficult to classify a dead stock looking gtr as a sleeper, no matter how much power it actually has.

Another sleeper volvo:

http://cust.idl.com.au/athol/default.html

[dineth]

ye i agree browny. Basically to me asleeper is a car that looks like it will go real shit but if u ever dragged it, it will rip u to shreads. Like dont matter how stock a GTR would look like, you will always know tis a quick car, now if you get a lancer (a stock pissy little model) and wack in a evo engine and gbox, then that car would be a sleeper cos no one would vere guess it would hammer until you see it go. then there are the opposite of sleepers such as celicas, paseos, fto's and so on.

[rev210]

'Rice' is the opposite of 'sleeper'.

Sleeper -- looks slow goes quick

Rice -- looks well errr... tries to look fast goes slow.

[Cubes]

Well you would if the stock looking gtr spun up all 4 wheels through first second third and fourth..

[09ONE_32]

My 1979 TE Cortina is a sleeper. Stock bumpers, still got the 4.1L badges on it. The exhaust is extremely quiet as long as you are under about 7psi or so. The only give away is the FMIC. No wheels just pursuit rims. Engine is a 1JZGTE with the 4 speed auto strengthened and shift kitted, manualised valve body and a 3000rpm stall. Single turbo conversion, 440cc injectors with a halteck. Around 300rwkw.

I was thinking about putting a blanket across the parcel shelf and sticking an old mans Bowler hat in the corner. Then getting some kind of a bowls club sticker to put on the bumper. Possibly might go to the extreme of putting up one of those little louvers/blinds in the back window.

[geno8r]

I was thinking about putting a blanket across the parcel shelf and sticking an old mans Bowler hat in the corner. Then getting some kind of a bowls club sticker to put on the bumper. Possibly might go to the extreme of putting up one of those little louvers/blinds in the back window.

LOL I love it mate, do it!!! But you gota get who ever you race filmed by a passenger, the look on the face of some punk thinkin he's faster in his holden or any car trying to race you really...

[Cubes]

haha the good ol' 1979 TE Cortina..

I had one of those as my first car. Mild 250, holly, cam exhaust 4speed etc.

When I was growing up the TC-TE's were known for being pretty damn quick.

A mate had a TC with a 250 2V head.

That thing went damn hard with mild cam and holly.

Not much apart from a pretty wild VH SLE 5ltr would beat it.

Even then it only 'just' beat it.

The VH was a mates brothers which apparently ran a mid 13 sec pass.

[09ONE_32]

I swear everyone one has owned a TC-TE cortina. I get all these people telling me about how well the 250ci cross flow went. Most people who do ask me about it expect it to be a 250ci turbo. I think it was XE Falcons that had a brief run of a turbo model, with the 250ci but I am pretty sure that it was injected.

[Parag0n]

I was thinking about putting a blanket across the parcel shelf and sticking an old mans Bowler hat in the corner. Then getting some kind of a bowls club sticker to put on the bumper. Possibly might go to the extreme of putting up one of those little louvers/blinds in the back window.

That there is the icing on the cake my friend, do it.

[Cubes]

I think there was only a real limited edition of custom special built 250Xflows in the falcoons... They weren't really released to public though.. Not sure exactly.

I remember talking to a bloke on either this board or skylinesdownunder who owned one. He was talking about how the motors didn't last too long due to the use of forged pistons. Back in the old day of big arse clearances.

The trick with the old 250xflow was to use the Kidney shape alloy head from the XE (I think it was).

This would bump up the comp and the heads used to flow better and rev harder.

A stock kidney chamber alloy head with the stock webber used to throw a TE 4 speed in to the high 14's... lol.. Still not to bad.. Plenty of grunt down low. Excellent burnout machines.

Heheh In stock form I remember mine making peak power at 3800rpm.. lol

[BBQ]

I think you could class a sleeper as ray halls car, His Lexus Is200 has had a transplant with a Supra 2JZ motor and a big turbo bolted on, puting out 443hp at the wheels, It really does look like family car.

[BBQ]

And a 1967 XR GT Falcon With a 351 Windsor, Twin Turbo puts out: 630HP, and runs ET: 10.6 @ MPH: 128

[Abo Bob]

I think there were about 200 turbo XE falcons made in conjunction with some racing team. I'm no good at Ford stuff.

I got chopped in Canberra by a guy with a Datto 1600 with SR20DET. He slowed down to let me catch up then did 3rd gear fishies away from me. He had original hubcaps and internal rear louvre. Very stock and original looking.

He also told me he had a faster one at home!

[japtaxi]

off topic: while this isn't any old sleeper volvo.. but it sure looked tuff

[KIL.08S]

My mate has one of the original supras (the celica shaped ones but with the flairs) with a 1JGTE in it, the thing runs a mid 11 and looks and sounds totally stock, even has the original 2.8i badges.